Mac displays & UAD

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fraz

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Hi,

Is it possible to use the thunderbolt displays in conjunction with UAD Apollo Twin Duo etc.....& maybe other connected UAD devices - I've not used t'bolt before which is why I'm asking before weighing up purchase decisions - If it is possible without undue hassle then I may add an HDMI display as well.
 
DanButsu

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You can as long as the TB display has a second port to daisy chain the Twin off of it.
 
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fraz

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DanButsu said:
You can as long as the TB display has a second port to daisy chain the Twin off of it.
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Just had a look on Apple store, can't see the connectors on t'bolt display - Would Apple have 2 t'bolts ports on?]-Maybe an Apple Guru may know! - For the price they're charging it should have!
 
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fraz

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I've just copied this from Apple store - It mentions another t'bolt port in the last sentence - So this will do it as well as having other I/O available to the Mac!-Well for the price they have to make it good!

The ultimate docking station.
With just one cable, connect any Thunderbolt-enabled Mac and get 27 inches of high-resolution screen space, high-quality audio, a FaceTime HD camera, FireWire 800 and Gigabit Ethernet ports — and a Thunderbolt port you can use to daisy-chain additional high-performance peripherals such as hard drives and video capture devices.
 
DanButsu

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Ya. That's it. It has a second port for daisy chaning!
 
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fraz

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Thinking about it if the monitor was wall mounted, how would it be possible to access the other I/O on the t'bolt display? - There is a VESA compatible bracket [sold separately]-
What could be done in this scenario?
 
DanButsu

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You'd need something like this



 
Immersive

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The TBolt Display has a pass through thunderbolt connector on the back and one on a hardwired cord to attach to your computer. It also has 3 USB3, a firewire and an ethernet connection on the back.

Yes it has a VESA Available. I bought a 3rd party one that was a bit of a pain to attach but works fine and was half the cost of the Apple one.

One thing to keep in mind is the display's hard attached thunderbolt cable is about 4 feet long so if your wall is too far away your out of luck.

TBolt-Display-Connectors.jpg TBolt-Display-VESA .jpg

Joe
 
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fraz

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Yes I've found a few online-thanks-It just takes a little time-

There is another query that I'm not sure about - New technology, to me anyway-LG do a monitor that has thunderbolt which also has a 4 split screen function via software downloaded from the LG website. I think it needs either display port or HDMI to work - With the Mac mini having two t'bolt ports doubling up as display ports too I'm wandering whether this would work as I hope it would via thunderbolt and daisy chaining whilst using the 4 split screen feature on one big monitor to hopefully be able to get extended desktop. The link is below

LG 34UM95 34" Ultrawide IPS Monitor - Ebuyer

Let me know what you think - It seems like a good idea to have one big monitor and dividing the screen up as if there were more monitors attached whilst working with thunderbolt and UAD interfaces.
 
Poesque

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If you are daisy chaining two Apollo units, an SSD array and a display through the same Thunderbolt port, is there a bandwidth issue? If you have two Thunderbolt ports, does this allow you to effectively double the throughput, or is everything going to bottleneck regardless?
 
Gerk

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Poesque said:
If you are daisy chaining two Apollo units, an SSD array and a display through the same Thunderbolt port, is there a bandwidth issue? If you have two Thunderbolt ports, does this allow you to effectively double the throughput, or is everything going to bottleneck regardless?
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From what I've read they are two busses (not shared) which means full bandwidth on each. At 20Gb/s each way on each port I don't think there will be a bottleneck.
 
Gerk

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fraz said:
Yes I've found a few online-thanks-It just takes a little time-

There is another query that I'm not sure about - New technology, to me anyway-LG do a monitor that has thunderbolt which also has a 4 split screen function via software downloaded from the LG website. I think it needs either display port or HDMI to work - With the Mac mini having two t'bolt ports doubling up as display ports too I'm wandering whether this would work as I hope it would via thunderbolt and daisy chaining whilst using the 4 split screen feature on one big monitor to hopefully be able to get extended desktop. The link is below

LG 34UM95 34" Ultrawide IPS Monitor - Ebuyer

Let me know what you think - It seems like a good idea to have one big monitor and dividing the screen up as if there were more monitors attached whilst working with thunderbolt and UAD interfaces.
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I would be a bit dubious with that 4 screen split software personally. Most times those things will only work in Windows or be incredibly flaky ... I wouldn't depend on it for your day to day usage. Lastly multiple screens are almost always better IMHO. Also this:

* A daisy-chain configuration may not be available depending on PC performance, interface or graphic card.

* When connecting both Thunderbolt™ ports to two separate computers, the monitor will only recognize the computer that is connected first. The second Thunderbolt™ port can be used as a daisy-chain for external storage devices or additional monitors.
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A daisy chain "may not" be available, in other words they don't even certify that it will work in all configurations. They also say that if it works it can be used for additional displays or storage devices, no mention of anything else though which could mean if you have issues and try to get support they could tell you that they don't support having non display or storage devices attached.

Unless you can find someone else that's already using this monitor successfully for reasonably high bandwidth Thunderbolt devices I would avoid it, but maybe that's just the overlay cautious part of me speaking here. At least with a Thunderbolt Display from Apple the Thunderbolt part of things is actually supported, and I can tell you first hand it works fine for UAD devices (my Apollo Twin is connected to one right now).
 
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fraz

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Hi Gerk,

Thanks for the input - I'll be getting a Mac mini, maybe a Pro but a mini is cheaper and still quite powerful - You seem to favour multiple screens over one big one - With Apple having thunderbolt on Mac mini it may be best if I could find two t'bolt monitors that are not too big - eg 21" each or maybe 24" - I'm in UK and I haven't found any small-ish t'bolt monitors to get for the Mac I will get - Apple have the t'bolt monitor but its huge @ 27" and no way could I wall mount two of these, one yes but they don't have any smaller alternatives

Another option maybe an iMac - Is it possible to wall mount an iMac?- and from looking online iMac does not have HDMI output on -BUT if there was a 3rd party thunderbolt monitor at the correct size then it could be used with iMac and Mac mini / Pro -
 
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fraz

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I'll be speaking with LG next week - The big monitor may work via connection to HDMI and leaving t'bolt out of it
 
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jblongz

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I use the Apple Thunderbolt Display with with my macbook pro and Apollo 8. Works great. I had a Mac mini once. Its a good little beast, but you will lose some CPU to any display because the GPU is in CPU, not discrete.
 
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