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    Multiple instances of plugins across all tracks in session

    HI - I've been watching some UAD and other tutorial videos and have noticed that it is possible to insert the same plugin across all tracks to simulate a real console. e.g. the Neve 88RS, the new brainworx console E, etc. However, when I try to do this, I get a message saying that some of the instances have been disabled due to DSP limitation. I'm using a iMac 27" with 32GB added memory (full capacity), with nothing else running, internet disabled etc. So - how can I have 16 instances of, for example, Neve 88RS plus all my other audio and instrument plugins on each track running in a session?

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    I should also add that the Legacy version of 88RS doesn't have this problem on it own, but when I start to add onstruments, vocals etc, then the DSP is quickly used up. How on earth can people run 24, 48+ tracks with UAD plugins?
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    Probably you are running out of DSP power. Mk II versions use more dsp power because they simulate the pre-amps and the non-linearities.
    Take a look here and calculate: https://help.uaudio.com/hc/en-us/articles/215262223
    If you like a lot the sound of the plugins you want to use the solution is to add one more Octo.

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    One more Octo?
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    Quote Originally Posted by briaboy View Post
    One more Octo?
    At least! Look at the instance chart and add it up. Also, take off load lock in the UAD settings. A channel strip with load lock takes more then you'd probably need. As it reserves dip incase all the elements get added. (eq, comp, gate, etc)

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    But I'm not sure what you mean by "add Octo". Which Octo?
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    Let me give you an example. Here is a screenshot of a session. As you can see I have a 10 track session with the following: 13 Instrument/vocal plugins (non-UAD) and 6 UAD (Neve 1073, La-2A, 1176, Maag, 2x EMT140).
    Even this is too much DSP because one of the EMT140s is disabled. The UAD Table you sent says that even the most basic setup should be able to run 6 EMTs!

    I'm sure I must be doing something wrong here.

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    To test this from a "clean" perspective, I just opened a brand new session and tried to add multiple instances of EMT140. The limit is 8 before DSP disable takes place. And that is with NO other plugins (intsruments, audio etc.). This doesn't seem right. Help anyone!
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    Your gear shows a Satellite Quad as your UAD processing. You need way more then a quad for what you want to do. The quad has 4 cores. One instance of the neve 1073 takes up almost one whole core. Use the instance chart and add up how many cores it will take to do what you want to do. As an example, I have a 20 core system. And I still max out quite easily at times. I just bought a Octo sattelite last week, so now I'll have 28 cores and will be able t run more plugs.

    It's not about computer specs, it's about how many UAD cores you have.

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    So the Apollo 8 PLUS the satellite Quad is not enough to run a decent sized session? That's crazy. So - how many cores does the Apollo have? Plus the Quad makes a total of ? So how many plugins can I expect to run in one session with the Apollo 8 plus the Quad? Sorry to be so dumb about this but I've never tried doing sessions larger than 8 tracks until now!
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