Eventide H910 Goes Native already???
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easteelreath
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I got the UAD Eventide as part of an upgrade bundle for a new UAD-2 on 2/13/16. That was a pretty hefty full price of $249 that should have obviously been applied to something else; a $85 native offering sort of upsets me. I should have stuck with my normal rule of "thou shalt purchase no non-UA coded plugins for the UAD-2." I've always stayed away from the Brainworx and Softube stuff, but I figured the Eventide was a odd-ball that might not follow the normal plugin release path with the "exclusive UAD" comments. Oh well...
I've been with UA for 10+ years, and I never found any reason to waste precious UAD DSP resources on a plugin that would run native, too.
I've been with UA for 10+ years, and I never found any reason to waste precious UAD DSP resources on a plugin that would run native, too.
Poesque
Active Member
It seems that third-party UAD offerings, if "exclusive" at all, are only so for a few months at best. I suppose that UA is only chipping in on a smaller portion development time/cost, or perhaps even paying a small branding fee for the head start. From the third-party developer, it is a win-win, as they are tapping into a new market while not diminishing their previous market share once it goes native. I suppose the Chandler Curve Bender and the Fender amps will go the same way. With less and less plugins being developed in-house by UA combined with the stark reality that competitor gear and computer performance is advancing to where native latency and processing demands are becoming less of an issue, UAD's market strategy may not bode well for the long haul. Seeing the native versions be released at pricing significantly under anything UA has offered to date is a slap in the face, especially when one considers the hardware investments made to even have access to these plugins.
Ouch! Another slap in the face? The native version offers a new dual mode not available on the UAD version?
Ouch! Another slap in the face? The native version offers a new dual mode not available on the UAD version?
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Hoenerbr
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Well Thank God the Fender was developed by UA so you won't see a native of that until this ship is sinking! Hopefully we never see that day! Long live UA!
Poesque
Active Member
You are right there. For some reason I forgot and attributed it to Softube as with the Marshalls. The Fender is a good example of the quality that can be delivered when UA steers their own ship!
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machinated
Active Member
I read on GS when they both came out that they aren't exactly the same (but pretty close).
Eric Dahlberg
Purveyor of musical dreams fullfilled.
I think it was a really smart move by Eventide to release first on UAD. UAD users tend to be more positive about plugins because we have more invested and are willing to experiment more to get the best out of them. I can definitely see how the pricing is a bummer, though.
Cass Anawaty
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Not sure about Eventide plugins. I have the 2016, and while is has a hint of the character (and I do use it sometimes), I don't think it's up to UA standards by a long shot. I demo'd "Black Hole", and didn't find it comparable to the hardware either (I've owned an Eclipse and have an H8000).
So I'd give it a close listen before being disgruntled.
So I'd give it a close listen before being disgruntled.
I passed on Black hole as well, when I compared the demo to Valhalla Shimmer, I liked Shimmer better.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Eventide released the H910 in their Anthology X bundle on October 21st 2015, 2 weeks before the UAD release (UAD v8.4 Nov 4th).
See this press release:
Eventide Releases Anthology X for AAX, AU and VST | Emusician
Here's a quote from Matt about the native vs UAD models:
See this press release:
Eventide Releases Anthology X for AAX, AU and VST | Emusician
Here's a quote from Matt about the native vs UAD models:
EDIT: Oh I see, they released the keyboard version Natively
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The Eventide version has more features. It has stereo linking options that look pretty cool that the UAD version doesn't have.
go to about 2:35
Video Review - The H910 Harmonizer By Eventide ? Pro Tools Expert
go to about 2:35
Video Review - The H910 Harmonizer By Eventide ? Pro Tools Expert
Well let me restate my question then. Does it include ALL of the features in the UAD version and does it sound identical to the UAD version?
sadkin
Venerated Member
This one has always been a little weird/hazy in its marketing and phrasing. I had been under the impression this already existed natively but w/o the 'octave keyboard' via Eventide. I still bought it through UA willingly. Again, there was some verbiage about UAD exclusivity or whatever and I wasn't sure what that meant except that, (for awhile) UA had the Eventide developed version w/ the keyboard. I don't consider that a huge deal, I just wanted the UA version...not sure why, is Eventide ilok? if so, that would quickly explain my decision - that is something i've not integrated in my setup, i've no slate, kush or other ilok plugins, I have UA ...the biggest dongle around
Anyways, to me this isn't quite the same as the Bx stuff (which still feels a tad slimy) because Eventide had their earlier, non-keyboard h910 released at the same time, or at least they had it released at the time that i was eyeing it up - which was very soon after its initial UAD release. Despite the odd marketing phrasing, I determined that it was developed by Eventide so I figured theirs had the exact same guts (minus keyboard). So now they have a native version with a keyboad? - meh, as i see it, it's not really the same as the Bx bologna.
At any rate, I love it! it is perfect for my stuff, I use it at least once, usually more, in every mix of my own music, just a great thickener/widener - it's like a subtle chorus but with out the 'smeary' modulation associated with most typical chorus'/doublers - it just widens. ...that's mostly how I use it.
Anyways, to me this isn't quite the same as the Bx stuff (which still feels a tad slimy) because Eventide had their earlier, non-keyboard h910 released at the same time, or at least they had it released at the time that i was eyeing it up - which was very soon after its initial UAD release. Despite the odd marketing phrasing, I determined that it was developed by Eventide so I figured theirs had the exact same guts (minus keyboard). So now they have a native version with a keyboad? - meh, as i see it, it's not really the same as the Bx bologna.
At any rate, I love it! it is perfect for my stuff, I use it at least once, usually more, in every mix of my own music, just a great thickener/widener - it's like a subtle chorus but with out the 'smeary' modulation associated with most typical chorus'/doublers - it just widens. ...that's mostly how I use it.
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slamthecrank
Hall of Fame Member
I'm kind of lost on this...
Am I reading this correctly? That the Eventide H910 that is/was exclusively on UAD's platform, and is currently selling for $250 ... is all of a sudden available Natively for $80? And it's the very same plugin?
Something isn't right here.
Am I reading this correctly? That the Eventide H910 that is/was exclusively on UAD's platform, and is currently selling for $250 ... is all of a sudden available Natively for $80? And it's the very same plugin?
Something isn't right here.
kedavis
Member
Yes.
kedavis
Member
I believe the $84/99 pricing is for a limted time. The regular price is $249. Also, the plugin itself was available in Eventide's Anthology X.
Hoenerbr
Hall of Fame Member
This one is actually an upgrade from both Uad and the Anthology X version
It has Dual mode which allow the use of 2 units in one plug for wild stereo effects
I am definately going for this one!