The [Upset about] Sierra Thread

Hoenerbr

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What in the world is this obsession with updating to every new Mac Os as it comes out? In particular MacOS Sierra?
Will it mix your music for you? Maybe its because I've spent too much of my life on the Bleeding edge, but I'd rather work with an OS that has been proven to be solid!
Then again if it weren't for you Bleeding edgers out there, the OS's would never become solid, so.......
Carry On!
 

simonjewel

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I seem to recall that somebody commented that it would be easier and better if Apple just changed "the damn font" every couple of years ...

What in the world is this obsession with updating to every new Mac Os as it comes out? In particular MacOS Sierra?
Will it mix your music for you? Maybe its because I've spent too much of my life on the Bleeding edge, but I'd rather work with an OS that has been proven to be solid!
Then again if it weren't for you Bleeding edgers out there, the OS's would never become solid, so.......
Carry On!
 

Matt Hepworth

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There you go, but society has embraced the constant update mentality. I'm certainly more old school in my approach. 10.8.5 on the production systems here and very happy.
 

woodyreed

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Oh don't get me started. I've been on mac since the beginning, and always used to update the OS the day it came out. And everything still worked and the OS added so much useful stuff. Over the last several years it's been a disaster. I'm still on 10.9 on my machines and quite happy. My wife has a new laptop with 10.11 installed and I hate it. It's a new MacBook. I hate the hardware, and the software is so damn bloated. What used to be simple tasks are now so damn convoluted it's becoming like windows. It took me hours to go through things and shut "features" off so she could use it without calling on me every 15 minutes to help. I truly feel their end goal is to make everything an iPhone. Steve Jobs must be itching like crazy where ever he is.
 

Matt Hepworth

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I tried 10.9 for a few days back in the day. I had been running 10.7 at the time. Went straight back.

When Yosemite was out for a few months I gave that one a go. Much better.

I tried a later version of EC on a test machine. It's convoluted and features have been absolutely destroyed (like Disk Utility!).
 

DanButsu

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Questions is: for how much longer will be able to run a fast, stable and reliable pro audio machine on a Mac? Mountain Lion (released under 4 years ago) was the last solid OS release and has now been dropped by everyone as they have to scramble to qualify their products with the yearly insane OS release, so the 4th OS behind gets dropped, where the 7 year old Windows 7 is still supported industry wide!

I don't want to fuel a mac vs pc debate, this is just a real concern for us peeps on Mac. It is compounded by UA tying in their drivers with plugin releases. If I want to stay on 10.8.5, UAD v8.6 will most probably be the last release to actually let me install the UAD software and have access to the new plugins. The alternative is to upgrade to Mavericks, which will be dropped in a years time when Apple releases the next yearly OS joke! Sigh
 

simonjewel

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You're absolutely right about the OS issues that we have with Apple... I have found Yosemite to be a really stable release... I just hope, like you, that I can keep with my current Mac and OS and be able to update UA for a while yet
 

Matt Hepworth

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I will be moving to Yosemite when my hand is forced as well. I've used it for a bit in my mobile rig and found it to be a solid OS. What I really miss is Leopard and Snow Leopard. Those were the days...
 

woodyreed

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OK, and what's with the damn naming of the OS? I mean, come on! I can't keep track of the names. If I click about this mac, it say OS X version 10.9.5. So I'm supposed to google os 10.9.5 so I know the name of it. Ridiculous. What's wrong with a number? It's an OS, not a mountain range or an animal.
 

Serenity

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What's wrong with a number? It's an OS, not a mountain range or an animal.
I think most people, like me, have a much better memory for names than for numbers. I honestly wish more companies would use real world names for their products.
 

Serenity

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What in the world is this obsession with updating to every new Mac Os as it comes out? In particular MacOS Sierra?
Will it mix your music for you? Maybe its because I've spent too much of my life on the Bleeding edge, but I'd rather work with an OS that has been proven to be solid!
Then again if it weren't for you Bleeding edgers out there, the OS's would never become solid, so.......
Carry On!
Yeah I don't get it either. Unless it's fixing some serious issues you've been having or for software compatibility. If you are curious about the thing you can just install it on a different partition and you don't need to worry about breaking anything.
 

woodyreed

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I think most people, like me, have a much better memory for names than for numbers.
OK, if that is the case, then why don't they put the name in "about this mac"? I'm on 10.9.5 and I have no idea what "name" that is unless I do a search. And then to know what order the OS is in, you'd have to look it up. Where as I know for sure 10.7 is before 10.8. A name just convolutes things IMO. And apple has been convoluting things a lot lately.
 

Hoenerbr

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I will be moving to Yosemite when my hand is forced as well. I've used it for a bit in my mobile rig and found it to be a solid OS. What I really miss is Leopard and Snow Leopard. Those were the days...
YES it was like the song, Those were the days my friend, we thought they'd never end!
It really did seem to be quite a long time that Snow Leopard was relevant Right?
 

Hoenerbr

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I think most people, like me, have a much better memory for names than for numbers. I honestly wish more companies would use real world names for their products.
Yeah like they could call the next OS "John" or how about "Mary"?
 

slamthecrank

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I've had no issues with El Capitan at all.

Yosemite, on the other hand.... just whoa.

I don't really mind that they took away part of the Disk Utility app, as there are better (and free) programs that do maintenance like Repair Permissions etc. (Onyx is a great app).

I'm quite happy with El Capitan. Probably won't do an update until late Spring next year, if everything in the new OS is up and running by then.
 

J

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OK, and what's with the damn naming of the OS? I mean, come on! I can't keep track of the names. If I click about this mac, it say OS X version 10.9.5. So I'm supposed to google os 10.9.5 so I know the name of it. Ridiculous. What's wrong with a number? It's an OS, not a mountain range or an animal.
I don't so much mind the names, nor the numbers. I get why they have both (I remember when we just had numbers). What is slightly baffling to me is that all of the information doesn't simply just appear when you click about this mac. Why not just tell me the number, and the name. It's just silly!
 
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