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    9.3 Download Size

    I live in a rural location. I started the 9.3 update download just after breakfast this morning. It's just after lunch and my download manager says I still have ten hours to go before I have completed the 9.3 download.
    Same thing happened a couple of weeks ago when I updated to 9.2.0
    What is frustrating is that I don't own 90% of UAD plug-ins. I have no immediate plans to buy the latest releases, except perhaps upgrade my AMS RMX. A year or more ago, it seemed updating my UAD software wouldn't take anything like this long.
    It's getting on par with things like Native Instruments Komplete, or Toontrack Superior, with hundreds of samples and programs to download. Most other software fx plug-ins are very quick to download or update.
    Questions: Why can't you make smaller downloads that don't include every plug-in (already on our computers), just the ones this particular update effects? Why can't we choose to unclick all the products we don't own and don't want to update. Many software products allow you to choose what you don't want to install.
    It's just getting a bit ridiculous that my internet is tied up for 10 to 13 hours just so I can update a handful of fx plug-ins. And it's every couple of months, not once a year, or even quarterly.
    I don't need to download the entire catalogue of UAD products just to keep my Apollo up to date.... surely?
    Thanks, Chris
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    Move. Lol

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    Cripes, 10 hours to download.............it generally takes me about 3 minutes with the latest updates. As a test, I just downloaded the v9.3 update twice (back to back) in under 6 minutes (4.2GB's). So no speed issue on UA's end.
    Are you still using dial up speed........sorry I couldn't resist. LOL
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    I just moved ... to here, from another slow internet location.
    I'm on 'fast broadband' but the download speed is generally around 1.5Mbps. That's as fast as it gets in this locale. maybe 2.6Mbps on a very good day.
    Here's the things though, of the 1.71GB I'm downloading from UAD, I probably own and can use 10%. If I wanted to buy some of the other plug-ins I could download them from the UAD site (or as demos).
    The second thing, if this is just a general update for the Apollo and twin, plus three new plug-ins, can we not download just that, instead of everything UAD have ever offered?
    I download complex photography/video software, things like Capture One 10 and Resolve 14 and it's nowhere near 1.7GB

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    How fast is your cell phone data speed? You could try tethering off that if it's faster. At my house, my cell service is as fast as my home internet (200+ mbps).
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    Quote Originally Posted by billybk1 View Post
    Cripes, 10 hours to download.............it generally takes me about 3 minutes with the latest updates. As a test, I just downloaded the v9.3 update twice (back to back) in under 6 minutes (4.2GB's). So no speed issue on UA's end.
    Are you still using dial up speed........sorry I couldn't resist. LOL
    I'm with you Chrisso - an update that is 2.1GB's! It's not a very elegant solution having to download the whole bundle again, rather, you would think that the users Control Panel would be able to identify which components need updating and just do that. If UA put a bit more thought into streamlining the process I dare say we'd also be able to choose to install only the plugins we own rather than clogging up the plugins folder with lists of plugs that we can't use but have to scroll by on a regular basis. And if you continued to explore efficient coding perhaps you'd end up being able to balance plugins across chips properly.

    I guess I'm old enough that bloatware still bothers me; I'd prefer to see programmers working smarter.

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    Thanks.
    Yes, this is what I'm getting at.
    Apart from anything else, in some countries you have to pay for data, or at least have a limit on your contract . I can't see why we can't have a smarter update procedure.
    I'm constantly updating my other software - fx plug-ins, software instruments, DAW and photography/video and nothing gets close to 2gb and a ten hour download - and when I already have everything on my computer as up to date as 9.2.0

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisso View Post
    Thanks.
    Yes, this is what I'm getting at.
    Apart from anything else, in some countries you have to pay for data, or at least have a limit on your contract . I can't see why we can't have a smarter update procedure.
    I'm constantly updating my other software - fx plug-ins, software instruments, DAW and photography/video and nothing gets close to 2gb and a ten hour download - and when I already have everything on my computer as up to date as 9.2.0
    Thanks for the feedback, guys - I hear you!

    The installer is monolithic on purpose so that drivers, plug-ins and software that works across our entire hardware line are all in sync. It is large, but it simplifies the download and installation for users - you only have to pick an OS instead of figuring out which device or expanded system you have and it gives us a huge advantage when troubleshooting so we have maintained that approach.

    We may look at different strategies in the future, but for now, the unified installer is the most elegant way to handle it.

    Cheers!

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    Gannon, I hope you will also look at the policy of not letting phone users download their updates using their phone and then transferring them to the computers. Many cord cutters use their bandwidth on their Android or iphones and do not have a direct connection to wireless or a limited WiFi connection to their phones.

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    Best not to download Spectrasonics "Keyscape" at over 20GB or Cubase 9.0 at around 10GB, it is getting very annoying for folk who don't have such a large capability or a very fast line. Do these developers have a deal with the ISP'S or what...
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