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Thread: UAD API 550A and 2500 vs Waves API --> Drums

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    UAD API 550A and 2500 vs Waves API --> Drums


    EDIT: API 2500 comparison now included as well in post 14.



    I just did a comparison that may be helpful for people.

    Here's a basic drum mix. There's no compression or gating and it was recorded dry.

    Each track has a bit of API 550A EQ on it. The settings were matched completely.

    One pass is all UAD API 550A and the other pass is all Waves API 550A.


    Files attached.


    Tracks (all EQ'd a bit individually with the respective 550A):

    Kick
    Snare Top
    Snare Bottom
    Hat
    Rack Tom
    Floor Tom
    Overheads
    Rooms

    Pretty standard.

    I also used a small bit of EQ on the drum buss matching the UAD or Waves pass. Again, API 550A.

    There is no other processing.
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    Awesome thx matt.. cant wait to check them in my studio

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    Quote Originally Posted by RalphK View Post
    Awesome thx matt.. cant wait to check them in my studio
    Definitely let me know your thoughts.
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    PTHD> 2x Pro Tools HD4 Accel | 2x Mac Pro 8 Core (16 thread) | 2x Magma Chassis | Apogee Symphony I/O, AD16X, and AVID HD I/O | 2x UAD-2 OCTO, Solo | Pro Tools HD 10, HD 12 | Studio One V3 Pro | OSX 10.8.5

    NATIVE> nMP Ashtray/Trashcan Hex Core | OSX 10.10.4| Windows 8.1 Pro | Apollo QUAD "Classic" w/ TB, Apollo Twin DUO | TC Konnekt 48 | Samplitude Pro X | Studio One V3 Pro | SONAR Platinum | Pro Tools 12

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    Hi Matt,

    I listened to both of the tracks... they are very much similar! I guess i have to train my ears a little more.

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    I feel there's a fairly noticeable difference. The UAD is a little thicker, more tangible, and more vintage sounding, if you will. The Waves is brighter and a bit more modern/forward sounding.
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    PTHD> 2x Pro Tools HD4 Accel | 2x Mac Pro 8 Core (16 thread) | 2x Magma Chassis | Apogee Symphony I/O, AD16X, and AVID HD I/O | 2x UAD-2 OCTO, Solo | Pro Tools HD 10, HD 12 | Studio One V3 Pro | OSX 10.8.5

    NATIVE> nMP Ashtray/Trashcan Hex Core | OSX 10.10.4| Windows 8.1 Pro | Apollo QUAD "Classic" w/ TB, Apollo Twin DUO | TC Konnekt 48 | Samplitude Pro X | Studio One V3 Pro | SONAR Platinum | Pro Tools 12

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    Yeah, I shut my eyes and flicked through them several times and always picked the UAD version.

    Thanks for taking the time out Matt!

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    Just added 24-bit WAV versions for those wanting an even closer listen.
    PTHD> 2x Pro Tools HD4 Accel | 2x Mac Pro 8 Core (16 thread) | 2x Magma Chassis | Apogee Symphony I/O, AD16X, and AVID HD I/O | 2x UAD-2 OCTO, Solo | Pro Tools HD 10, HD 12 | Studio One V3 Pro | OSX 10.8.5

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    I tend to agree with Matt... the waves being slightly brighter and thinner

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    The beauty is in the details, thanks Matt!

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    To my ears the UAD sound more natural, the Waves are more bright, not in a bad way anyway, just a little more sparkly.

    I'm just a student/newbie in the audio world, so my ear are maybe not so trained, but I'm the only one who find the Waves track a little compressed? Specially the part in the middle, when the groove goes on the rimshot of the snare... but maybe is my perception related to the overall brightness.

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