2 DAW's, 4 cards, I want another... What will happen?

[Dan Duskin]

I have four UAD-1 cards in total registered under my name, two cards in two different DAW computers. If I upgrade one of my DAW computers to have 3 cards (5 cards in total), will I have to buy my separately purchased plugins all over again to use them on all the cards???

 

[davioh]

afaik, you'll have to buy plug in licenses all over again (for cards 5-8).

 

[secretworld]

I have four UAD-1 cards in total registered under my name, two cards in two different DAW computers. If I upgrade one of my DAW computers to have 3 cards (5 cards in total), will I have to buy my separately purchased plugins all over again to use them on all the cards???

AFAIK yes

 

[Dan Duskin]

Anyone try it ???

 

[davioh]

Dan straight from Uaudio's site:
\"What are groups?
A group is an identifier of up to 4 cards. Your UA software license allows you to run your plug-ins on up to 4 UAD-1 cards in one system. If you have more than 4 cards, than you will have 2 groups, and you will be required to purchase 2 software licenses. \"
Source:
http://my.uaudio.com/support/storeFAQ.h ... r-12-48213

 

[Dan Duskin]

Ouch! Damn...

Thanks

 

[Horse]

A group is an identifier of up to 4 cards. Your UA software license allows you to run your plug-ins on up to 4 UAD-1 cards in one system...

But if you've got them across 2 computers at the moment, aren't you already running two groups?

H

 

[davioh]

I would interpret 1 system as 1 computer.

 

[secretworld]

I think it is obvious why there is a 4 card limit. UA can´t stop people from having 4 cards in 4 systems or even 4 friends having 4 cards in 4 systems (1 each) registered to the same group so minimising plugin costs. If there was no card limit per group we could just ad 8 or 16 cards to a group with 4 people and so drastically reduce our plugin costs. You could rightfully say that that is illegal, but a copy protection scheme is only as effective as you can force it to be.

 

[Dan Duskin]

I understand the reason for it... I'm just hoping

Please... if anyone has actually tried it, or has more than 4 cards... please let me know what exactly happens (besides what UA says in their statements)...

 

[neil wilkes]

I have been wondering about this myself as well.
It may well be worthwhile asking UA directly.
I seriously doubt that they would charge full-whack on a second group of cards. Also, AFAIK the 4 card limit was set not because of Copy Protection, but I am certain it was a limit imposed either by architecture, or an arbitrary one set at the time, or a system limitation of some sort.

 

[Dan Duskin]

What happens if you simply don't register the new cards?

 

[MarkE]

What happens if you simply don't register the new cards?

You wouldn't be able to buy new plugins for cards that you don't register or use plugs that you have bought for cards that are registered with any unregistered cards.... I assume.

I don't think there's anyway round this. If you want more than 4 cards you have to buy any (non free) plugs you want again, for each group of 4.

Mark

 

[Dan Duskin]

Well... we won't know for sure until we here from someone who has tried it.

Anyone?

 

[petersueco]

AFAIK the authorization reg file you download every time you buy a new plug-in authorizes all your registered plug-ins to all four cards you have. Every card has a hardware ID. Your four hardware IDs gets authorized by the reg file. As you can not add a fifth card to the group no reg file will authorize your plug-ins for this extra card. So, you can have:

- 4 cards in one computer.
- 3 cards in one computer and 1 cards in a second computer.
- 2 cards in one computer and 2 cards in a second computer.
- 1 card in one computer, 1 card in a second computer and 2 cards in a third computer.
- 1 card in four different computer.

All four cards must be registered to the same group and you would run the same reg file in all the computers.

This is not legit as it stands in the license agreement though.

Just my 0,02 Euro.

Peter Holmquist