Any chance of an AMS RMX-16 for UAD1?

[ambrose]

I know we've talked about this before, but i wanted to keep the idea alive in the minds of UA (unless, of course, they are already planning one).

Adding the AMS RMX-16 to the reverb options offered by the UAD-1 would be an amazing thing to do.

I'm a big fan of that and the EMT-250, but i gather TC have a nice 250 emulation.

The ams does amazing things for singers, and the nonlin program is wierd and great on anything percussive. I've put this up quickly against tc's non-lin2 and found the sound world totally different (perhaps it's a settings thing, but i liked the ams better).

So, here's a big vote of support for the AMS rmx-16 on the UAD-1.

 

[makinghits]

try altiverb, it has an rmx-16

 

[Eric Dahlberg]

The Scope cards have an AMS.

 

[ambrose]

Thanks guys for your help.

I'd noticed that scope had an ams, but the thought of another pci card fills with fear. The ones i have don't play nicely together.

It's a shame. I can sort of get half (quarter?) of the way there in Dreamverb with hours of tweaking the settings, but i'm not sure if it sits in the track that well. I've got the spectral response i want, but not the diffusion. Sorry i can't describe this any better, i hope it makes sense. I'm after that big, splashy (yet classy) sound it does so well.

It was something about the ability of the AMS to cut through the mix but not draw undue attention to itself that i'm lacking.

I just took the altiverb ams tour. It sounds impressive, but strangely \"static\" to me.

 

[cowudders]

TI just took the altiverb ams tour. It sounds impressive, but strangely "static" to me.

Altiverb _is_ static, of course.

If you want the nonlin patches, try TC Electronic's NONLIN2.
You'll need a Powercore (any model), but don't demo the DVR2 - you'll want this one too, I promise.

cheers,
bernd

 

[Eric Dahlberg]

Does the NonLin2 sound like an AMS?

 

[ambrose]

Eirc,

No, i don't think it does (it's *too* good, if you know what i mean). For me, i find a lot of tc's reverbs really draw attention to themselves in a mix - \"look at me, i'm great\" kind of thing. That's not always what you need.

However, the ams i've rented previously was a first generation one, and i gather ams updated their non linear algo in a later version considerably.

Thanks for all the help guys.

Best

 

[Mark Edmonds]

It surprises me a little that these \"classic\" digital hardware reverbs aren't converted more to plugins. If they are done with an official licensing setup (assuming companies still exist), the algorithms source code could be used for conversion. OK, I don't know what CPUs they used but my hunch would be multiple 8 bit Zilog/Motorola or 16bit M68000 types meaining conversion to modern instruction sets should be relatively straight forward.

That leaves those with proven excellence in this field to model the converters and bingo, a recreation of classic digital outboard.

I'd be extremely interested in hearing how these older units sound by our current standards.

Mark

 

[tomliversidge]

rmx-16 - is this what they use to use on lots of 80's boogie synth tracks to get that massive sanre sound? if so, i want one.

 

[TheHopiWay]

Slightly OT here...
If anyone has the number for a qualified tech that could do some work on an AMS rmx-16 please email me. Mine has developed some funky switches and I'd like to get it overhauled by someone whose familiar with them.

 

[ambrose]

tomliversidge,

the amx can produce an amazing snare sound- It's a great unit, but i'm not sure to what extent it was a go-to box for producers who would have probably at the time been happy with the \"new\" trendy lexicon offerings of the day.

The ams shouldn't be that difficult to model. From listening, I don't think the algo's are that technically complex, and you can hear a bit of grain compared to a new style 'verb, but they are the \"right\" ones! The design team certainly knew what would work in a mix and what wouldn't.

It's a very \"generic\" reverb, but capable of some great big washy spaces which is absolutely right for some music to swim in and so totally wrong for others. I guess you could say the same of most technology, but this is a real reverb gem.