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Any reports on 4.2 - LP 7.2 - OSX.4.5?

thewitt

Active Member
Just wondering before I upgrade.
 

Giles117 DP

Active Member
4.2 is fine. Havnt done the logic upgrade yet....10.4.5 is fine wi 7.1 though
 

F5D

Active Member
How about the error -26 bug of the 4.1 software? Have they fixed it? Can you load many lighter plugins and get over 65-70% with 1 uad1? I can go up to 95% with 4.0 software. However the 4.1 software gives me the error -26 at about 65% with the same plugins. Maybe users with 3 or 4 uad1 cards didn't notice it at all.
 

Giles117 DP

Active Member
Do you have a PCI-x Mac??? If so that might be your issue...

When I have one UAD hooked up only, I get overload errors a lot, when I have 2 I can get up to about 90% hit before I have issues.
 

thewitt

Active Member
Can you guys move to another thread please?

I'm looking for people using the above set-up to give an opinion.

Thanks
 

F5D

Active Member
My mac is a dual 1.8GHz PCI-slot system and I have Logic Pro 7.2 and OSX 10.4.5 installed. I want to know too if I should install the 4.2 or not and especially whether the error -26 bug of the 4.1 software is fixed or not before I install. I know that if I had a PCI-X G5, I might have problems going over 65-70% but I can go easily to 95% with 4.0 software but the 4.1 software prevents me of going over 65%. Maybe UA wants us to buy more cards. :wink:

Btw, I'm not the only one with this problem.
 

F5D

Active Member
Ok, it seems that the error -26 problem (powered plugins error) with logic wasn't fixed. I installed the 4.2 and there's the same problem as with 4.1 software. I cannot load my uad1 card to 95% as before. Logic gives an error between 70-80% usage now. I don't understand this because I have a PCI G5, the one which UA suggested earlier so it's not the PCI-X problem. So, I'm going back to 4.0 again...
 

gekko

Member
perhaps your problems also relate to overall PCI saturation
since you're running 2 PCI poco's and a UAD-1

I'm running a G5 Dual 1.8 (late 2004 PCI model), OS X 10.4.5, Logic Pro 7.2, with a Motu 896 firewire interface. oh, and a UAD-1 card :)

with audio buffer size at 128 samples, process buffer range set to \"small\", and the cpus at around 80-90 maxed via bunch of tracks and au instruments, i can still load the UAD-1 to 92% without any problems. disabling all of the UAD plugins only releases about 5-8% of the G5's system cpu usage, which isn't really bad. another thing to keep in mind is i have chained several of these plugins on single tracks, so you may be getting different usage if you have a ton of small UAD plugs on separate tracks each.

So yes, this setup with Logic 7.2 has been the most stable to date FOR ME. I can't vouch for your experience.

One tip is to plug in an external firewire disk, make a clone of your system drive (http://www.bombich.com/software/ccc.html does a great job), and upgrade your system. if you experience problems, you can roll back to where you were with a minimum of fuss.

hope this helps,
-jd
 

pnajar

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All is solid here. Dual 2GHZ G5 (last series of PCI). OSX.4.5, 2 x UAD cards with 4.2 and RME Multiface. I'm about to do 4 weeks of heavy mixing so I'll know more then. Since 4.2 I've really only been tracking and not using many plugins....
 

Ashermusic

Active Member
pnajar said:
All is solid here. Dual 2GHZ G5 (last series of PCI). OSX.4.5, 2 x UAD cards with 4.2 and RME Multiface. I'm about to do 4 weeks of heavy mixing so I'll know more then. Since 4.2 I've really only been tracking and not using many plugins....
All is fine here with Logic 7.2, OSX 10.4.5 and 4.2 UAD. There are however, a couple of new bugs in 7.2 that are not related to the UAD-1.
 

F5D

Active Member
gekko said:
perhaps your problems also relate to overall PCI saturation
since you're running 2 PCI poco's and a UAD-1
Well, it seems that the 2 powercores don't have any effect on this because I can run the uad1 plugins without any problems if I have the 4.0 software installed. And I also tried this without loading anything to the powercores.

Casey replied to my email and suggested turning off the uad1 cpu limiter and using larger processing buffer range but I haven't tried these yet. TC suggest to use small process buffer range for the powercores and everything works fine with uad1 4.0 software so I won't upgrade.

Things work better, if you use very cpu intensive uad1 plugins but I have only 1 card and prefer using lots of light plugins like LA2A, 1176SE etc to get everything out of my card. The new software seems to be optimized for multi card use. Or the problem is that I have the uad1 cpu limiter set at 95%. However this works well with 4.0 software.
 

cheek

Member
hi,
g5 dual 2ghz with 3 PCI slots,
i'm running a hdsp9632, 1 uad with 4.2 and logic 7.2 on OS X 4.5.
no problems here since insallation, everything is running like a charm.
can load up the uad to over 95% without any glitches, dropouts, crackles or err-21!
 

thewitt

Active Member
cheek said:
can load up the uad to over 95% without any glitches, dropouts, crackles or err-21!
That's good news. Would you get errors before when running that 'hot' on the cards? I do and would love to be rid of it.
 

cheek

Member
my previous system was a 1,4 ghz athlon on a abit KT7A (lol) , with same hdsp9632, but uad1 soft-version 3.9.
i could also load the card up to over 95% without errors, but i had to try around with a PCI-latency config tool and the MIN-GNT settings for some days till i got it that stabil, also had to switch buffersize to 1024, but for mixing that was quite ok.
so my first installation on this g5 (i have it for a few weeks now) was with version 4.2
 

cowudders

Member
F5D said:
Ok, it seems that the error -26 problem (powered plugins error) with logic wasn't fixed. I installed the 4.2 and there's the same problem as with 4.1 software. I cannot load my uad1 card to 95% as before. Logic gives an error between 70-80% usage now. I don't understand this because I have a PCI G5, the one which UA suggested earlier so it's not the PCI-X problem. So, I'm going back to 4.0 again...
Hi F5D!

Just read your message and tried the following (as we both have the same G5)

6 audiotracks(stereo) with 17 LA2A distributed among them. Load on the UAD meter(also limited to 95%): 91%. No Problem. Than I added a few plugs from my Poco MKII - no problem.

Note: all this was done with 128 samples buffer(!!) and resulted in minimal system load (about 5%). I'm gaining confidence in my system again. BTW: _The_ one thing that was giving my clicks at lower buffer rates was Altiverb, which I'm avoiding during composing since finding this out. Altiverb really wants something like 512 or more. Logic's SpaceDesigner uses more CPU (on the CPU meter), introduces 64 samples more latency, but is completely usable in this scenario.

My system:
G5 dual 1.8 revB, OS 10.3.9 (maybe that's the main reason?), UAD drivers 4.2, LogicPro 7.1.1, 1 Powercore MKII, RME's Fireface drivers.


cheers,
bernd
 

F5D

Active Member
cowudders said:
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Hi cowudders. :)

I didn't read these forums for a long time. Now I had to find this thread and post because I just installed the 4.3 software and I loaded 3 1176SE comps and about 10 neve se eq's and maybe something else too and the uad1 cpu meter says 96% and no errors. I hope UA have fixed the bug or there was something mysterious going on with my system. Earlier I could use only about 70% of the uad1 cpu if using the 4.2 or 4.1 software. I still have to try some other plugin combinations but everything seems to work well so far. And the new neve eq is really great. I have to consider selling my powercore unplugged to get a uad1 flexi pak with dimension d and neve eq. I hope they bring us the neve compressor soon too WITH SE (low cpu) VERSION! 8)
 
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