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At this point, should -anyone- buy more than one card?

Suntower

Established Member
Yeah, it's a high shock value subject line, but I do think, at this point in history it bears discussion.

I have 3 UAD-1s. As I've noted in other topics, my main DAW broke down and I've been looking for replacements. I've also noted how the MAIN part of my decision process comes down to UAD-1 compatibility. That alone doesn't thrill me.

The reason it doesn't thrill me is that, right now, it seems that getting a mobo with multiple PCI slots is harder than finding hen's teeth. Seems that most of the companies that made mobos with lots of PCI slots have discontinued. Check it out.

So... if you have one UAD-1, great! But with all the talk about having multiple UAD-1s it seems that the the main route for current mobos would be to commit to a magma. Boy does that not kill me either.

It's all very well that there is a PCI-E UAD-1 now, but that still doesn't address the fact that very few mobos have more than a few slots of ANY kind.

In short, I guess if I were starting out now, I might not get another UAD-1 simply because it would be too darned difficult to accommodate it in a 'modern' mobo. And then I would have the joy of dealing with a magma.

So it seems to me that the only thing that makes sense is to -wait- on getting other UAD-1s until UA comes up with a long-term solution---either FireWire, a SUPER-CARD, or a magma-like box.

Discuss!

---JC
 

flynn

Active Member
Well, I took the Magma route. Will be replacing my current DAW with a new one based on the Asus P5WD2-E Premium MB with 3 PCI & 4 PCI-e.
(and a D950 dualcore processor)

Got an older 7-slot version of MAGMA for a reasonable price, taking care of the UAD's & other PCI and still have two internal, and 4 PCI-e for future cards (including a Graphic card)

Figured the Magma investment where better than trading the UAD-s for PCI-e. Also think it will be a good mix of PCI/PCI-e.
(and hopefully I can get my fourth UAD-1 cheap when someone else want to \"upgrade\" to PCI-e :p )

EF
 

Agent Cooper

Established Member
Same here, 3 UADs in my main machine and one in my recording machine.
Everything you said is true, Suntower.
Magma is fine for you US guys, but here in Europe ...
I'd pay 200 - 250 Euro for a working one, but I haven't even seen one yet for twice that price.
But then, if UA keep up that stupid 4 card limit, they'll force me to go Duende or Liquid Mix by the end of the year. I'll certainly not pay for a second set of authorisations.
Cheers, Cooper
 

Eric Dahlberg

Purveyor of musical dreams fullfilled.
Hey Cooper, where in Europe are you again? I've got an old Magma-Avid 7-slot sitting in London right now, it's not complete but may still be useful with Magma's new PCIe card coming out.
 

Suntower

Established Member
Re: MOBO's

----really? Can you give me a -specific- source for A8V Deluxe? I thought I had tried -everywhere-. I -literally- spoke with a dozen companies who said it was discontinued. Further, the other offerings have either fewer PCI slots or known UAD-1 incompatibilities.

If you know otherwise, PLEASE enlighten me!

TIA,

---JC

mBlaze said:
There's still plenty of 6 & 7-slot PC MOBO's around and mixed PCI/PCIe boards if you look around.

http://usa.asus.com/products2.aspx?l1=3&l2=11

It's tougher on the Mac side which is now all heading PCIe
 

Akis

Sadly, left this world before his time.
Moderator
JC, I don't know if you'd like a used one, but I have an A8V Deluxe I want to get rid of. It's in London, though.
 

Suntower

Established Member
Hey thanks!

Probably cost at least 50 quid to ship to Amerikay, though, right?

How much do you want for it? Is it registered? Under warranty? Why are you willing to let it go?

Questions, questions... :)

Thanks!

---JC


Akis said:
JC, I don't know if you'd like a used one, but I have an A8V Deluxe I want to get rid of. It's in London, though.
 
Have to agree there SunnyGuy, I'm in the same position, but they still can be had from Asus.
I'm waiting for a serious failure to do an upgrade. Still using a 4 year old 2.4 GHz cpu@266 FSB.
Ironic that the 2 UAD cards have allowed me to not upgrade to the point where upgrading (in the standard inexpensive way) almost seems impossible ;)
 

Suntower

Established Member
Phil Chamney said:
I'm in the same position, but they still can be had from Asus.
Please, exactly -where- can they be had from? (ASUS A8V DELUXE to be precise.)

---JC
 

Animix

Member
Re: MOBO's

Suntower said:
----really? Can you give me a -specific- source for A8V Deluxe? I thought I had tried -everywhere-. I -literally- spoke with a dozen companies who said it was discontinued. Further, the other offerings have either fewer PCI slots or known UAD-1 incompatibilities.

If you know otherwise, PLEASE enlighten me!

TIA,

---JC

mBlaze said:
There's still plenty of 6 & 7-slot PC MOBO's around and mixed PCI/PCIe boards if you look around.

http://usa.asus.com/products2.aspx?l1=3&l2=11

It's tougher on the Mac side which is now all heading PCIe
They are pretty easy to locate on EBay. the "non Deluxe" A8V will also work with dual core CPU's and multiple UAD-1 cards. The SATA controller isn't that great on the ASUS board anyway. I've got mine disabled. The Gigabyte GAK8NS-Ultra 939 with the NForce3 chipset is also compatible with multiple UAD-1 cards and dual core CPU's and it has a decent (Silicone Image) SATA controller. I located one of these the other day and bought it. I'm contemplating swapping mobo's, but my point is that these boards can be found.........and Magma's work great BTW and they're cheap. I'm running 4 x UAD-1 cards in a 13 solt Magma and two out of 3 RME HDSP cards in a 7 slot Magma on the same DAW due to PCI throughput and IRQ issues with having so many devices. My rig is very stable.
 

Agent Cooper

Established Member
Hello Eric,
Thanks for the offer !
I'm in Germany.
What exactly do you mean by \"not complete\" ?
Have a nice day,
Cooper
 

UAfan

Member
I'm not very thrilled by the state of affairs for the moment. I have 4 UAD-1 cards, and have a sneaking feeling they are a dead end. I bought a Magma, but can't get even 3 cards to work on my system, even when resorting to ridicules buffer sizes. Spent 3-4 days adjusting PCI latencies, BIOS settings, card positions, graphics card parameters, and receiving mainly standard replies from UA support. I think it's way too much time wasted, and I certainly have started to question the feasibility of separate cards, except for maybe a short technology \"windows of opportunity\" life span. Which gets expensive in time and money. It's a shame, I love the plugins. But when my mobo dies, it's a real possibility that a significant value invested goes down the drain. :evil:

M.
 

Eric Dahlberg

Purveyor of musical dreams fullfilled.
Re: MOBO's

Suntower said:
----really? Can you give me a -specific- source for A8V Deluxe? I thought I had tried -everywhere-. I -literally- spoke with a dozen companies who said it was discontinued. Further, the other offerings have either fewer PCI slots or known UAD-1 incompatibilities.
The link he's referring to has a 7-slot mobo at the very top. Is that board known to be incompatible w/ the UAD-1? I've heard of a dual core, dual socket Opteron board that is known to be compatible with both UAD-1 & Powercore, it's always made me wonder why there's so much hype over the A8V.
 
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