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eoj

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An inconsistent punk / Hardcore Kick Drum. These dudes love doing triplets w/ a single kick but the first hit is always strong and the second and third not so much...
Oh and what settings.

Thanks in advance,

Joe
 

Plec

Venerated Member
Best compressor for taking care of that is your editing tools. Way better to adjust those hits by hand instead of using a compressor if you want it to sound un-altered.
 

imdrecordings

Venerated Member
Replace that SH*T!!! :wink:
Click-ittee click click click 8)
I always track a kick and snare trigger.
People are fk'n lazy and want to be rock-stars.
That genre is flooded with mediocrity and lazy drummers. Who have a tendency to over play.
I always come prepared.

But if your looking for a Comp to do the job, try the 1176LN in Limit mod or something like the Precision Limiter or Waves L1,L2....

:wink:
 

saemskin

Established Member
my 1176 is missing the limit mode switch, is that an upgrade option?

:wink:
 

Plec

Venerated Member
imdrecordings said:
Replace that SH*T!!! :wink:
Click-ittee click click click 8)
I always track a kick and snare trigger.
People are fk'n lazy and want to be rock-stars.
That genre is flooded with mediocrity and lazy drummers. Who have a tendency to over play.
I always come prepared.
YEAH! I agree! :D
 

Dan Duskin

Established Member
If you are trying to FIX the kick sound (making it more consistent)... I would use Drumagog to replace the kick before compressing it. I use the dynamic tracking knob on the last tab of Drumagog and reduce it to 50% when I need to fix dynamic issues like you've described.

My favorite kick drum compressor for pop, rock, punk & metal is the SSL channel (or bus) compressor.

I suppose you could try compressing it WAY over the top and see what happens (if you don't want to replace it)...
 

Dan Duskin

Established Member
lux said:
Give the little UAD compressor gate a try it is very tight and punchy
The GateComp is designed for electric guitar... i.e., the gate is more like an expander than a gate (like the BOSS Noise Suppressor pedal), and the compressor is more like a sustainer (like the BOSS Sustainer pedal). It is VERY good! But, I find it works best on guitar and bass. Of course, that is not to say it couldn't work well on other things in certain situations.
 

TheHopiWay

Active Member
ApTrigga is perfect for this.
Load it with a sample of a solid kick hit and blend it with the original to taste. It'll retain some of the natural fluctuation or completely override the original sound.

Several strong selling points for ApTrigga;
It's cheap, fast and effective.
 

lux

Active Member
Dan Duskin said:
lux said:
Give the little UAD compressor gate a try it is very tight and punchy
The GateComp is designed for electric guitar... i.e., the gate is more like an expander than a gate (like the BOSS Noise Suppressor pedal), and the compressor is more like a sustainer (like the BOSS Sustainer pedal). It is VERY good! But, I find it works best on guitar and bass. Of course, that is not to say it couldn't work well on other things in certain situations.

Im well aware its original purpose was for guitar but it works great on kiks and snares and also for smashing room mics.
 

Dan Duskin

Established Member
lux said:
Dan Duskin said:
lux said:
Give the little UAD compressor gate a try it is very tight and punchy
The GateComp is designed for electric guitar... i.e., the gate is more like an expander than a gate (like the BOSS Noise Suppressor pedal), and the compressor is more like a sustainer (like the BOSS Sustainer pedal). It is VERY good! But, I find it works best on guitar and bass. Of course, that is not to say it couldn't work well on other things in certain situations.

Im well aware its original purpose was for guitar but it works great on kiks and snares and also for smashing room mics.
Cool... I'll have to try it.
 

saemskin

Established Member
imdrecordings said:
Very funny.... ha ha

FYI 12 or 20
Out of curiosity, what ratio do you all define as "limiting" anyway?
Why?
 

eoj

Member
um....

Wow! you peeps are crazy.... but yeah of course sound replace or trig that shit. I was trying to keep it as natural as possible. I do use Drumagog at about 50% just for consistency. On another note is the over all consensus that limiting is better than compressing for Kick consistency?

Oh And thanks.... I think.
 

imdrecordings

Venerated Member
saemskin said:
imdrecordings said:
Very funny.... ha ha

FYI 12 or 20
Out of curiosity, what ratio do you all define as "limiting" anyway?
Why?
It's just a term I've used when using the 1176 over 8:1. Don't know that I've ever applied that term to any other compressor/limiter. Habit.
 

Dan Duskin

Established Member
Re: um....

eoj said:
Wow! you peeps are crazy.... but yeah of course sound replace or trig that shit. I was trying to keep it as natural as possible. I do use Drumagog at about 50% just for consistency. On another note is the over all consensus that limiting is better than compressing for Kick consistency?

Oh And thanks.... I think.
For consistansy... compression can't really help you, and neither can limiting... because the harder the drummer hits the kick drum the snappier it gets, so no matter how much you compress it the louder hits will still pop threw the mix more... unless you smash it into complete distorted mush with a limiter (and then the kick won't have ANY life left to it).

I would go ahead and completely replace it... 100%. Kick is the safest drum to trigger. Also, when you blend (any less than 100%) you end up with phasing issues.
 

Fundy

Established Member
Well if you are doing straight-forward limiting/amplification it's the equivalent of Inf.:1 although the knee of the compressor can define the character of the output.

Using 1176,LA2A or LA3A as comparisons to modern limiter models is a little misleading if you ask me. Whether it be in hardware or software form.

As for kicks, I've learned to leave a bit of headroom in it so it doesn't drastically change in the final mix of whatever I am working on. So I tend make between -6dB and -3dB peak at the mixing stage.

Maybe I'm doing it all wrong. Hugh nose?
 
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