Best Way to add another headphone input to Apollo Twin

Nickvegas

Active Member
hey everyone, I have seen a couple threads about this but have not seen a definitive answer.

I just got the Twin and I am looking for a way to add a second headphone inout. I think console allows two headphone mixes right?

I know you can: Slit the main jack with a Y TRS cable, go direct to Input 3 on the back (Which puts it in mono?) or get a headphone amp and connect it to 3/4 on the back.

I ruled out the Y cable on the main headphone input because I have two headphones with different impedances ( beyerdynamic dt 770 80 ohm and 10 year old ATH M50 of which I do not know the ohm but it is less)

Is it better to use a headphone amp? if I do does anyone have any suggestions for a 4 input? I was looking at either the Mackie-HM4 or the AKG HP4E. I am just using it for tracking, not mixing. Does the amp affect sound quality, or even matter for just tracking?

Bonus question: can I use a headphone mix for the channel using a headphone amp if I go down that route? I record and mix in the same room, so If I have a vocalist recording, I want to hear what they hear and I cannot have my monitors on while recording. if I can get a headphone mix for them, is there a way to copy the two mixes in my channel and their channel, or do I just have to set them both up the same? sorry if this is a ridiculous question, I am still wrapping my head around Console

any other tips about headphone routing/mixing is much appreciated!!

thanks!
 

UniversalAudio

Official UA Representative
hey everyone, I have seen a couple threads about this but have not seen a definitive answer.

I just got the Twin and I am looking for a way to add a second headphone inout. I think console allows two headphone mixes right?

I know you can: Slit the main jack with a Y TRS cable, go direct to Input 3 on the back (Which puts it in mono?) or get a headphone amp and connect it to 3/4 on the back.

I ruled out the Y cable on the main headphone input because I have two headphones with different impedances ( beyerdynamic dt 770 80 ohm and 10 year old ATH M50 of which I do not know the ohm but it is less)

Is it better to use a headphone amp? if I do does anyone have any suggestions for a 4 input? I was looking at either the Mackie-HM4 or the AKG HP4E. I am just using it for tracking, not mixing. Does the amp affect sound quality, or even matter for just tracking?

Bonus question: can I use a headphone mix for the channel using a headphone amp if I go down that route? I record and mix in the same room, so If I have a vocalist recording, I want to hear what they hear and I cannot have my monitors on while recording. if I can get a headphone mix for them, is there a way to copy the two mixes in my channel and their channel, or do I just have to set them both up the same? sorry if this is a ridiculous question, I am still wrapping my head around Console

any other tips about headphone routing/mixing is much appreciated!!

thanks!
If you need a 2nd discrete mix, then a hp amp connected to out 3-4 is the way to go.
 

UniversalAudio

Official UA Representative
Thank you! any suggestions? I only probably need 2-4 inputs.
For me (as a studio owner-fulltime engineer) headphones and hp amps are basically "disposable". Meaning, they all take a beating, so I don't spend a ton on them. (lesson learned years ago.

So I use these:

They also have smaller versions.
 

Nickvegas

Active Member
Amazing thank you! so “sound quality” isn’t much of a factor? Especially if I’m just using it for tracking? Will I be able to get a headphone mix in the UAD console app using a headphone amp? I know I can use one with my main headphone input.
 

UniversalAudio

Official UA Representative
Amazing thank you! so “sound quality” isn’t much of a factor? Especially if I’m just using it for tracking? Will I be able to get a headphone mix in the UAD console app using a headphone amp? I know I can use one with my main headphone input.
Correct. For me, tracking is its own animal and the sound quality of the amp is not the #1 priority. The sterling gets the job done.

I also use these:

They're a great combination of tough, good sound, and clients seem to really like them.
 

Nickvegas

Active Member
Correct. For me, tracking is its own animal and the sound quality of the amp is not the #1 priority. The sterling gets the job done.

I also use these:

They're a great combination of tough, good sound, and clients seem to really like them.
This is good to know thank you!!
 
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