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Yiannis

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Guys I dont know what it is going on here but I have found that

OSX 10.3.9 and UAD 3.9 makes the mono to stereo plugs in DP 4.6 to work perfect without having to put another mono to stereo plug before the UAD :roll:
 

UAJames

Universal Audio
UA Official
Yiannis said:
Guys I dont know what it is going on here but I have found that

OSX 10.3.9 and UAD 3.9 makes the mono to stereo plugs in DP 4.6 to work perfect without having to put another mono to stereo plug before the UAD :roll:
Actually it isn't DP 4.6 per se that caused the problem with our MISO plugins, it was the MAS AU Support bundle that was installed with 4.6 (which is v1.4). Check to see if you are using that version of MAS AU support.bundle (located in /Library/Audio/Plugins/MAS/).
 

Yiannis

Active Member
Hi James,

you are right I am using 1.3 version :wink:

maby thats the reason I can't see the xtra UAD presets?
 

UAJames

Universal Audio
UA Official
Yiannis said:
Hi James,

you are right I am using 1.3 version :wink:

maby thats the reason I can't see the xtra UAD presets?
Yep that's it :) If you run the 4.6 installer again it will install 1.4 and you'll see the AU presets but have the MISO problem with UAD-1 v3.9.
 

UAJames

Universal Audio
UA Official
They have a bundle which acts like a \"translator shell\" for the AU plugins. To DP's defense it actually works quite well and it technically isn't like other wrappers where a new plugin file is actually created and referenced separately that the original. \"Wrapping\" has gotten a bad rap since in the beginning most wrappers worked very poorly which really isn't the case anymore.
 

Ninja

Active Member
I'm sure MOTU's wrapper works satisfactory, but wrapping is not a good idea if one is interrested in having a optimal enviroment.

A wrapper will always, by it's nature, add overhead. Even though I know examples where the wrapper itself is pretty impressive, the overhead will still always add up depending on how many plugins one wants to use. In the end that could mean the difference between a plugin or two or sometimes even more.
 

Trace

Active Member
Ninja said:
I'm sure MOTU's wrapper works satisfactory, but wrapping is not a good idea if one is interrested in having a optimal enviroment.

A wrapper will always, by it's nature, add overhead. Even though I know examples where the wrapper itself is pretty impressive, the overhead will still always add up depending on how many plugins one wants to use. In the end that could mean the difference between a plugin or two or sometimes even more.
I think you might be overstating the effect of a wrapper on overall performance. Waves has had a shell since its inception and I don't think they've had any performance problems.
 

Ninja

Active Member
Yikes. You couldn't have picked a worse canidate to bring forward. :wink:

I'm afraid you're quite mistaken. Waves have had tons of performance and compbalitity issues and their wrapper have been the centerpoint of discussions all over different forums. Nuendo/Cubase SX users had it particularly bad some time ago.

I remember reading about people pulling their hear out because of Waves' choice not to do actual VST plugins. I could never figoure out how they could charge as much for wrapped plugins in the first place; I'll be the first to admit I think Waves plugins are abit overrated. But that's an entire different discussion and one that have been covered by many people before.

Another thing I might add is that I don't feel comfortable having to wait for a 4th party to supply me with the additional code I need to eg. make plugins compatible with the latest AU or VST standard. Such should always be the responsibility of the plugin developers themselves.
 
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