Brainworx Amps Native vs DSP

[Indeloon85]

Not sure if this needs to be a question for the Plugin Alliance folks or here but I’m trying to figure out how to simulate what the Apollo is going when I use the Friedman Buxom Betty (incredible amp) in UAD’s console vs using PA’s native Buxom Betty in the DAW.
I have no doubt they are the same plugin but when plugging into the Hi-Z input on the Apollo and tracking thru console, it has some special impedance interaction that you just can’t get when using the same input (Hi-Z) and tracking with the plugin in the DAW.
Any chance this has been discussed here already and people know how to push the native amp to feel like the DSP one in console?

Also, as a separate question, I will always grab the DI on the guitar down another channel of the Apollo but I feel like being able to track with the DSP amp model + snagging the DI from the HI-Z input would be a big benefit to the Apollo system via a software update. Any chance that this could happen?

 

[lofe]

I bought MBox Studio recently to use with my older windows box. Already have an Apollo X6 with my Mac. Mbox allows impedance change for instruments. I can definitely hear the difference in my guitar sound when I change these settings. One idea I have is to combine it with guitar amp plugins (UAD or not). Apollo is still a higher quality interface. But I really like the flexibility of MBox Studio.

 

[Philomyth]

Could you use the unison trick (unison plugin bypassed) to get the impedance matching and then go into the native plugin?

 

[Indeloon85]

Could you use the unison trick (unison plugin bypassed) to get the impedance matching and then go into the native plugin?

hmm, good idea! I'll have to give this a try! Thank you for the tip!

 

[slamthecrank]

Probably pertinent to your questions:

https://uadforum.com/community/inde...nal-di-and-hiz-unison-amp-sim-together.58130/

 

[Indeloon85]

Ok I tried to trick the unison by bypassing the plugin, elements of the plugin, etc but it basically just wasn't happening. There's definitely a special sauce with the unison interaction because just going into the native version clearly gives gives the amp a little more drive/compression with just the stock settings.
I did try doing the "Send to an Aux" for grabbing the DI signal on the record tracks and use the Aux as the amp track but that removes the Unison element all together.
All good though, still nothing wrong with tracking the amp thru unison if it sounds the best, just the Native versions of the amps sorta seem not so special unless they have that unison element!