Bug: DM-1 (L)

[Awesom-o]

Whenever you select a new delay mode from the pop up list of the DM-1 or DM-1L, then the values of the L-delay, R-delay, LFO rate, LFO depth, LFO type, recirculation amount, damping frequency and wet/dry mix all jump to a new default value, losing your previous settings for all these controls. Grrr. :evil: :evil:


This is extremely frustrating and annoying! UA, please fix it!!

 

[polygen]

i think it's more like a feature...to give you default values that make sense for that delay mode. but i agree, it's not helpfull at all....

 

[csl]

I'm not totally sure (can't check at the moment), but it's probably because the different modes will have different delay ranges, eg a flanger will have different ranges to a long delay. but the delays ought to keep the same settings, i agree.

 

[Awesom-o]

I'm not totally sure (can't check at the moment), but it's probably because the different modes will have different delay ranges, eg a flanger will have different ranges to a long delay. but the delays ought to keep the same settings, i agree.

Thanks for the replies...

I agree that the ranges of some controls change when the delay type is altered. For example, the range of the delays changes from 0 - 45ms to 0-125ms when you go from flanger to chorus. But there is no need for the knobs to jump, they can stay where they are pointing because the "meaning" of the position being pointed at has changed. Yes?

They also jump when going from one type of chorus to another, or one flanger to another, even tho the delay ranges are identical for both.

And why should the delay type have any bearing on the wet/dry mix? Or the LFO controls? Or indeed the recirculate amount? These don't ever change their ranges so there's no requirement for any knobs to jump at all, but they still do.

If this is a "feature" then it is a very badly thought out one.

I've mailed UA technical support about this and I'll let you know any progress.

Regards,

Paul

 

[sj_digriz]

They are presets. It's all just settings. You aren't changing functionality by picking any one thing. Selecting them is like selecting one that you saved yourself.

 

[Awesom-o]

They are presets. It's all just settings. You aren't changing functionality by picking any one thing. Selecting them is like selecting one that you saved yourself.

I don't agree that it is purely a preset system; there is definitely a functionality change going on: (from the manual) "...the mode determines the available parameter ranges for L/R delay and depth".

Also, just listen to the difference between ping pong and dual delay! They sound like different delay patterns, and I have no other way of switching between them, other than the delay mode control, which then changes everything else

 

[sj_digriz]

[quote="sj_digriz":813j5e18]They are presets. It's all just settings. You aren't changing functionality by picking any one thing. Selecting them is like selecting one that you saved yourself.

I don't agree that it is purely a preset system; there is definitely a functionality change going on: (from the manual) "...the mode determines the available parameter ranges for L/R delay and depth".

Also, just listen to the difference between ping pong and dual delay! They sound like different delay patterns, and I have no other way of switching between them, other than the delay mode control, which then changes everything else [/quote:813j5e18]

The way I understand it is that the range itself is not restricted. It is setting it "in" the range to produce the given effect. I could be wrong. But, that's how I always treated it.

 

[Awesom-o]

Here's the official UA response:

\"Unfortunately, this is \"the way it is\". You're right that this could be improved, but at this point it is not possible. The mode pop-up is more of a preset selector. The DM-1 and DM-1L have always worked this way and the functionality will not be changing. -Will Shanks\"