Chandler Limited TG Microphone with Apollo x4.

[Wellz]

Anyone have any experience with the Chandler Limited TG mic or the scaled down Fet Version. It has some features that sound like union pre amp stuff and I wouldn’t want them to conflict. “ Tape Equalizer lets you shape the sound at the source, eliminating the need for further processing”

I’m returning a Mojave 201 FET - wasn’t much different for me than an AT4050 I’ve been lent while I build out. - open to mic suggestions as well. Thanks in advance.

 

[hotspot]

I wouldn’t want them to conflict

Conflict may be not the right term for what you probably mean.
It’s not conflicting at all, it may be too colourful from time to time, but you‘ll decide that for each individual case anyway.
In my opinion the TG is great, never heard it’s Fet version.
It’s cool if you can afford one.

But I wouldn't want it as my only microphone. It's not universal enough for me.
So it depends on what exactly you have in mind and what your microphone set-up looks like so far.

 

[Wellz]

Conflict may be not the right term for what you probably mean.
It’s not conflicting at all, it may be too colourful from time to time, but you‘ll decide that for each individual case anyway.
In my opinion the TG is great, never heard it’s Fet version.
It’s cool if you can afford one.

But I wouldn't want it as my only microphone. It's not universal enough for me.
So it depends on what exactly you have in mind and what your microphone set-up looks like so far.

Copy that appreciate the feedback. My go to studio closed and I’m building one in my house. More stripped down recording vs full rock and roll band.

Ua is sending me a Sphere LX per X4 purchase. Most info on audio gear seems like marketing/ hype. On my last records we used old AKGs and a few old Neumanns and some hq clones the studio owner made.

With my x4 (love it) I have some focal shape 65 (love em) DT700 pro x (like em - miss my old Sony 7506).

I’ve been learning Luna with AT 4050 - which a buddy lent me. I did a few vocal passes with the Mojave 201 and preferred the 4050.
Ideally I’d get a stereo pair of LDC, one ribbon mic, a 47 style Fet and or 47 style Tube. Budget is the cost of the TG. Best advice I was given was neutral mics and something you’d wanna use all the time

So i suppose my question to you would be what you do to complete this set up?

 

[hotspot]

So i suppose my question to you would be what you do to complete this set up?

This is such a broad question that I don't think simple name dropping will really help you with that.

More stripped down recording vs full rock and roll band

What do you mean by that? Is it more like acoustic music, single people singing their songs?
Is it just you or do you want to work with other people and eventual making money from it?

Ideally I’d get a stereo pair of LDC, one ribbon mic, a 47 style Fet and or 47 style Tube. Budget is the cost of the TG.

These two statements are understandable, but in combination they tend to result in you having so-so microphones, not bad but nothing really good either.
I would first limit myself to the essentials, a really good microphone that is as universal as possible. For me, universal means a microphone that cuts a good figure on many voices and sources.
The TG is far from that. As much as I love the REDD microphones, in my opinion the TG is too expensive for what it is.

After many comparisons, I keep coming back to the point that a Vanguard V13, for example, is in the right corner. It fits as good as always, is even a tube microphone favoured for vocals, smooth and versatile. Borrow it from the manufacturer and test it out.

Of course, you could also make a statement and specialise in good dynamic microphones or even say that ribbons are my flagship.
But I wouldn't really advise that at the beginning.
Take your first steps, have a good amount of recordings and then see where there really are gaps and potential for improvement, regardless of names and models.

Most info on audio gear seems like marketing/ hype

If you have that TG tape thing in mind, it's just different EQ settings taken from the equalising curves of different tape settings.
Sounds exotic, but is actually nothing special. Probably a reminiscence of the good old tape days. In that sense, it's more like marketing stuff. To be honest, it's too cryptic for me personally. I don't always want to have to think about which tape setting corresponds to which EQ curve. That's where the love of tradition has gone a bit too far.

 

[sirthought]

I own the TG mic and use Apollo. No issues than any typical recording engineering stuff. Mic placement. Check levels.

I've probably used most of the mic's EQ settings at one point, depending on the other sources being recorded at the time and what the material is. I've used it for mono drum mic, kick mic, acoustic guitar, and vocals mostly.

FYI, the TG mic and TG Type L are both FET microphones. They both can be used on just about anything. I think the new Type L is really pretty cool mic. I also really like a lot of the mics BeesNeez is selling. I've enjoyed their U67 clone quite a bit, as it also has switches to provide you with several choices of sound. They also sell a great 49 clone. I think in many ways the TG can offer the most dramatic changes, as it's such a full frequency mic and that EQ switch does empart real changes. Some folks don't like to deal with that, but I think it offers a big sound with good detail. Just remember that the fullest sounds when a source is solo'd don't always work the best in a fuller mix. So, take your time and experiment with trying different setups to see what blends together well as you learn it.

 

[kcatthedog2]

Remember, a real Mike, goes to a pre and the pre out goes to an Apollo line in, so no unison conflict.

Personally, if you have the budget, I ‘d always recommend a quality Mike first.

 

[Wellz]

This is such a broad question that I don't think simple name dropping will really help you with that.
Yeah that makes sense

What do you mean by that? Is it more like acoustic music, single people singing their songs?
Is it just you or do you want to work with other people and eventual making money from it?

Making records at home - my own music. Maybe expand later for remote mixing or tracking others - but that’s not immediate agenda. I wanna track at home and layer. Record the full band in a proper studio - do dubs at my house.

These two statements are understandable, but in combination they tend to result in you having so-so microphones, not bad but nothing really good either.
I would first limit myself to the essentials, a really good microphone that is as universal as possible. For me, universal means a microphone that cuts a good figure on many voices and sources.
The TG is far from that. As much as I love the REDD microphones, in my opinion the TG is too expensive for what it is.
Great points. Quality over quantity. Versatility.
After many comparisons, I keep coming back to the point that a Vanguard V13, for example, is in the right corner. It fits as good as always, is even a tube microphone favoured for vocals, smooth and versatile. Borrow it from the manufacturer and test it out.

Of course, you could also make a statement and specialise in good dynamic microphones or even say that ribbons are my flagship.
But I wouldn't really advise that at the beginning.
Take your first steps, have a good amount of recordings and then see where there really are gaps and potential for improvement, regardless of names and models.

If you have that TG tape thing in mind, it's just different EQ settings taken from the equalising curves of different tape settings.
Sounds exotic, but is actually nothing special. Probably a reminiscence of the good old tape days. In that sense, it's more like marketing stuff. To be honest, it's too cryptic for me personally. I don't always want to have to think about which tape setting corresponds to which EQ curve. That's where the love of tradition has gone a bit too far.

Greatly appreciate these well articulated points of view.

 

[Wellz]

I own the TG mic and use Apollo. No issues than any typical recording engineering stuff. Mic placement. Check levels.

I've probably used most of the mic's EQ settings at one point, depending on the other sources being recorded at the time and what the material is. I've used it for mono drum mic, kick mic, acoustic guitar, and vocals mostly.

FYI, the TG mic and TG Type L are both FET microphones. They both can be used on just about anything. I think the new Type L is really pretty cool mic. I also really like a lot of the mics BeesNeez is selling. I've enjoyed their U67 clone quite a bit, as it also has switches to provide you with several choices of sound. They also sell a great 49 clone. I think in many ways the TG can offer the most dramatic changes, as it's such a full frequency mic and that EQ switch does empart real changes. Some folks don't like to deal with that, but I think it offers a big sound with good detail. Just remember that the fullest sounds when a source is solo'd don't always work the best in a fuller mix. So, take your time and experiment with trying different setups to see what blends together well as you learn it.

Thanks for the feed back. I’d use the TG for vox and guitars. Chandler L looks very cool as well.

 

[guccilamarc]

I own the TG mic and use Apollo. No issues than any typical recording engineering stuff. Mic placement. Check levels.

I've probably used most of the mic's EQ settings at one point, depending on the other sources being recorded at the time and what the material is. I've used it for mono drum mic, kick mic, acoustic guitar, and vocals mostly.

FYI, the TG mic and TG Type L are both FET microphones. They both can be used on just about anything. I think the new Type L is really pretty cool mic. I also really like a lot of the mics BeesNeez is selling. I've enjoyed their U67 clone quite a bit, as it also has switches to provide you with several choices of sound. They also sell a great 49 clone. I think in many ways the TG can offer the most dramatic changes, as it's such a full frequency mic and that EQ switch does empart real changes. Some folks don't like to deal with that, but I think it offers a big sound with good detail. Just remember that the fullest sounds when a source is solo'd don't always work the best in a fuller mix. So, take your time and experiment with trying different setups to see what blends together well as you learn it.

I also own the TG Mic and use an apollo8. i use the Neve 1073 Pre in the cl1b mk2 and my level is pretty quiet. I have my preamp gain set to -35db and I'm even adding at most times 10+ db of gain on the cl1b. However, on my input level in my apollo my meters barely show any input coming in. Any suggestions? Tips?