I'm very willing to bet that there are many thousands of DP users who are very grateful indeed that UA did it this way.
I don't have experiance with DP.
I understand why you need vst load/save menu before. (and even DP4.6?)
And maybe some other audio application still exist which is incomplete AU preset support, and not everyone use newest version.
(with my app) I don't need VST preset menu in AU Plugin.
So I just want it can
hide, or separate utility, as I told.
Not want eliminate that grateful present from UA.
Anyway, this issue not just about beauty of GUI.
I think simple and clear preset management is important.
for worst example, I pick dreamverb on AU format.
1. It has some factory preset bank combined with program module. (same preset exist in individual)
2. and all VST preset access from load/save button on GUI (top left)
3. and also all VST preset access from load/save VST preset button on bottom au bar
4. and also all AU preset(same with vst) access from sequencer's own interface.
5. and saved my own preset access from sequencer's own interface (or SOMEWHERE 2~4)
(1)is not manageable. (2,3) (4) (5) is different each folder.
Is this \"good interface\", because they offer variant way? maybe Yes. maybe Not.
My english is poor, so I can't explain good enough.
I just want manage presets in ONE location,
and want selecting method is clear and simple.
This is why I don't want see vst load/save bar, and don't like banks in AU format.
But still I can ignore optional function. I know.
Maybe I'm under an obsession of this.
Anyway, \"Simple is best\". Isn't it? :wink:
Yes, I agree that individual presets DO have some organisational advantages. But here's the only difference between banks and individual presets that really matters in the physical world: with a bank, you load it once, then it takes just 128 mouse-clicks to go through all the presets it contains. With individual presets, each one loaded from disk, how many mouse-clicks or keystrokes does it take to go through 128 sounds/effect settings
Logic have next/previous key command, and Live have next/previous button.
And of cause don't need switch something(bank) even more than 128 preset.
So same and more effective with individual preset, compare to banks.
But I don't know DP's preset selecting method with individual preset.
And also factory bank cause some problem in older version logic (including my last PC version) and current live4.
So I really hate banks. :>
UA have done the right thing in the past (by doing the \"wrong thing,\" according to you), and I trust them to do the right thing again in the future vis a vis this new development in Digital Performer.
I'm not saying there is \"wrong thing\" in UAD-1 plugin.
It is completely follow standard(I'm not sure with banks), and bonus feature is just additional part.
But if I can make things more simpler, it will feel better and solve some problem.