Helios Console EQs: Could this be a hint for the new plug?

[imdrecordings]

Helios Console EQs
What do you guys think?
http://www.uaudio.com/webzine/2007/march/index9.html
A Helios Channel Strip! Modeled by UA!
God I hope so...
Who would have thought?

 

[imdrecordings]

Man.. these things are so stunning.

 

[sniper]

Yeah, the picture of the \"Channel module from the Type 69 desk\" looks pretty much like a preview of a plugin. Almost too much of a coincident to be a coinsident..

 

[Patrick de Caumette]

This sure looks like a UAD candidate...but there's also talk of tape delay in there so I wouldn't be surprised if we're getting something in that area as well faily soon..

 

[sniper]

ehrm.. you mean like the Space Echo?

 

[imdrecordings]

I swear Nathan Johns uses one of these. It was given to him by his Father, Glynn Johns. Man I hope this is the new plug.... talk about coming from left field.
Well, not that an EQ plug from UA is surprising.
But if so, UA has the best Copmressor and EQ plugs.
let's have another look.

 

[Resonant Alien]

This sure looks like a UAD candidate...but there's also talk of tape delay in there so I wouldn't be surprised if we're getting something in that area as well faily soon..

Roland Space Echo is tape delay, so they probably wouldn't do another one.

 

[dusty]

Dude, if it's gonna be another eq or comp i'm out!

Tape, tape, tape... or harmonizer or reverb or tube sim or exciter... But not another eq!!! :evil:

 

[BTLG]

right... because that tape bus plug-in that's going to use your whole card is going to sound just like tape....

and also considering that most commercial records never even TOUCH a tape machine these days.... it just seems kind of irrelevant to me.

I've they made a channel strip with a compresor/gate/eq that didn't suck up the entire card, it'd be a great addition.

other than that, I'd rather have something that simulated a console bus than a tape bus. In order to make a 'tape bus' useful, you'd have to run it across like.... every track.....

 

[imdrecordings]

I'm with Matt on this one...
I hope it's a killer Channel strip, that looks like the Helios... :lol:
I could really use a Gate with a great look ahead and yes, a different sounding EQ.
It could still be the LA3A. hope not
I hope the Cambridge is updated, too.
I hope they all get updated!
Who knows?????

 

[Eric Dahlberg]

and also considering that most commercial records never even TOUCH a tape machine these days.... it just seems kind of irrelevant to me.

A lot of the bigger budget stuff still hits 2-track, perhaps even the majority of them do, not to mention that even the majority of smaller budget stuff generally go through analog boards & other goodness that us ITB guys aren't using. I personally feel that the Portico Tape Bus does a lot to level the playing field so why wouldn't we want a plug-in version of something like that?

 

[LFranco]

I HOPE that's the next plugin!

Like Uncle E said, there's the Portico, anyone looking for tape emulation should check that out, or the HEDD if that's really what you desire. I want my UAD plugins to emulate classic EQs, Compressors, Reverbs and Delays - that's what they do best!

 

[BTLG]

Eric -

we get a lot of bigger budget work here and very little of it goes to tape. I had an indie project here go to 16 track 2\", and that's probably the first time I'd seen tape come through here in a long time. It's just not economical to go to tape, and it's hard to find the tape that people want. barely anyone even mixes to tape these days. it might be different on the west coast I suppose with some of the rock albums, but I highly doubt it since all the drums end up replaced anyway, and many of the guitars end up being run through a POD.

then again, we're dealing here with mostly film scores, cast recordings, jazz dates, pop dates, and hip hop/r&b dates, not as much rock as I'd like, and very few, if any of those go to analog these days. so that's where my reference comes from.

I agree with you on the consoles and analog goodness, that's why I said some sort of console bus which would act as a master section of any of the classic boards would be really great. I'd even be ok with it taking up the entire card.

Matt

 

[dusty]

BTLG,
obviously you've never been to major studio, otherwise you would know that 8 commercial releases out of 10, still hit the tape machine!
However what's the problem if UA bring something new to the table??
Just because they're good emulating comps and eqs, doesn't mean that they suck if they try something else :lol:
I don't think UA will ever update(beside small changes) their plug ins line.
And what they should improve in the cambridge EQ anyway?
Sorry but i have to disagree with the channel strip plug too! I think it's pointless since we got several good sounding native CS!
Also I don't wanna dish 1700 for the neve portico or 3+gz on HEDD to get a decent tape emu. I still don't understand why only pro tools folks can get goodies such as cranesong phoenix(very DSP efficient and good sounding btw)or mcdsp tape plug in? I'm not saying that the next plug in HAVE to be a tape emu but please no more EQs or comps!

 

[BTLG]

a tape bus plug-in will not make your work sound better.

better clocking, better converters, and your skill with the tools you have will make your work sound better.

i feel like a tape bus plug-in around here is perceived as some kind of 'cure-all' for poor digital systems.

 

[imdrecordings]

Regardless..
Owning 2 big ass tape machines, I have yet to hear a plug do what they do.
CraneSong, Samplitude's, MCDSP.... none of them. So they come out with one... It still won't be anywhere near the real thing. To make one come close might take up a whole card. To hell with that. I have 2 cards and still need more power. Putting a Tape Emu on the 2 buss barely ever works. You have to use them on individual tracks. Putting a tape EMU on the 2 buss and bouncing to a 1/2 or 1/4\" 2 track machine is completely different. IMHO 8)

 

[asg]

Bizarrely, I was thinking about a Helios plugin the other week while listening to some Zep and Purple recorded on the Rolling Stones Mobile.

Regards, Andrew

 

[dusty]

a tape bus plug-in will not make your work sound better.

better clocking, better converters, and your skill with the tools you have will make your work sound better.

i feel like a tape bus plug-in around here is perceived as some kind of 'cure-all' for poor digital systems.

we all know that man, but cranesong phoenix actually DOES make things sound better

 

[Andrew 108]

In the March 2006 edition of the webzine, in the analogue obsession section UAD talked about Neve eq's. In the May 2006 webzine they discussed the new UAD Neve plugin. When were the Neve plugs anounced? Was it April 2006? I'm really not sure. BUT i'm wondering if there is an established connection with webzine discussion of an analogue model like the Helios and the announcement of a new helios plug?
If there is a plugin based around the helios I think it's a stroke of genius by UAD.

 

[Eric Dahlberg]

In the case of the Neve's, they were actually announced at the NAMM show the January before that webzine, IIRC. UA still hasn't done the LA3 yet, despite it making the webzine quite a while ago. I'd actually prefer an LA3 over another EQ but perhaps that's because I've never worked on a Helios.