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How about a dedicated De-esser - say a DBX 902 model?

Daviskenn

Venerated Member
I didn't think the Neve strip was a fantastic de-esser and haven't been able to get killer results out of the multiband...How about a model of a simple hardware de-esser? Wouldn't be that tough - $149?
 

Paul Woodlock

Established Member
The best UAD-1 De-esser is the PMB. You can also use it as a de-thudder and a de-puffer at the same time :)
 

Daviskenn

Venerated Member
Maybe I didn't use it properly. How do you use it when De-essing Paul? I used the preset and then dragged it to the offending frequency, but it didn't seem to really tame it. I cranked the threshold back too...Any tips?
 

dusty

Active Member
I have to agree with the poster.. An ez to use, analog sounding desser in the 149$ price range would be killer. Sure the PB sound great, but:

1- It's too processor intensive to be used as a desser(we don't have all this processing power to spare do we;)

2- I'd rather have a more \"set it and forget it\" type of plug in(ALA la3a) with very few controls

3- DBX Dessing rocks!
 

imdrecordings

Venerated Member
You can use a Freq Analyzer to see which frequencies are being accentuated.

Move the marks in the PMB and use a fast attack w/slower release.
Start with the ratio at 2 or 3.
Adjust the threshold to catch what you want.
Same applies to plosive, thuds or thumps.
 

Juha

Just Starting Out
Paul Woodlock said:
The best UAD-1 De-esser is the PMB. You can also use it as a de-thudder and a de-puffer at the same time :)
YES!! I use it alot.. Also it's a lifesaver when you want solid "in your face" bass on rap vocals. Just apply some parallel MB compression on the bottom end and smile.

Davis, set the band to 2Khz-10Khz and start to try on different ratios and threshold. Use as fast attack you can get away with without distortion and release time quick enough not to cut off the tracks air after "s". Also if you feel you want to narrow the band, go ahead!

There's really no shortcuts in this, you already got the right tool, now you have to just tweak the knobs and LISTEN. :wink:
 

LFranco

Venerated Member
I find the De-esser in the Channel Strip to be very flexible and natural-sounding. Use the video that's posted in this month's \"plugin power\" for a brief example of it being used in de-esser mode and then play around to get what works for you. Between the 88RS and the PMB, I don't think UA needs to add another de-essing tool on the roster. Good luck!
 

jimbob

Member
Thanks to the excellent Digital Fishphones' Spitfish I have no interest in a UAD De-esser (not to mention the UAD solutions mentioned in this thread that are already available). Maybe I'm missing out on something but Spitfish has never let me down. My vote is for an AMS delay!

-Jim Bob

p.s. UA--PLEASE GIVE US BETTER MULTICORE DRIVERS FOR REAPER AND OTHER DAW'S!!!! thanks ;)
 

Paul Woodlock

Established Member
Daviskenn said:
Maybe I didn't use it properly. How do you use it when De-essing Paul? I used the preset and then dragged it to the offending frequency, but it didn't seem to really tame it. I cranked the threshold back too...Any tips?
Sure...


I use just one band ( band 4 ) switched on, set between about 2k to 10k. fat attack and release. high ratio and low threshold. It's the last plugin the chain so it's relatively easy to set the ratio to duck the 'ssss' without ducking the HF off the sustained notes.

If you get any pops in a recording then simply apply the same settings to band 1 set below 100Hz ( although I'll normally HPF those out with offline processing by hand.

I sometimes add a de-boom band as well. A regular voclaist I work with has a low mid boom to his voice when singing in his more mellow dimension. Compressing the 100 to 400 low mid band tames this too.

Multiband compressors can sort a lot vocal problems out. The PMB Rocks!!! :) It's basically a dynamic EQ unit really :)
 

ranchdip

Member
Sounds good to me. :)
 

Giles117 DP

Active Member
How about a re-release of SPL's DeEsser plugin for Mac and PC... I used it for mac up till MAc went OS X.. Loved that plug in. I Owned the hardware for a few years... WAS GREAT!!!!
 
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