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I was FLOORED when I heard this EQ plug.

T-Dogg

Active Member
Last night I downloaded a demo of the Algorithmix Red EQ plug. Holy sh'it, its really good man. And when I say really good -- I mean really good on a hastily recorded, scratch pad song in a project running at 44.1khz. I never saw much reason to get excited over a \"clean\" EQ until I heard this thing, so I'ma talk some sh'it about it below (even though I only spent one night with it, and should probably take more time to get over the \"new toy\" syndrome, so I don't eat my words later...)

-- the lows are SOLID and well defined (this is what sold me the minute I fired it up.) So thick... All this time I thought a thumping kick was all about careful compression in addition to some crazy notch&boost filter combination... \"I want to boost the lows, then get rid of the mud it left me with, and then I'll cut out these frequencies to save headroom on my comp, blah blah blah...\" Waste of time, a simple shelf filter on this thing just did it. A little tweaking made it even better.

--The highs are open and smooth -- took me a little longer to appreciate this, for some reason it didn't jump out at me right away, but after a while of fooling with HighCut and HighShelf combinations, it becomes apparent.

--The imaging is incredible. Alot of EQ's feel like they smear the stereo field, or intentionally play with the phase/width in an unnatural way to make things appear more analog and wider sounding, but at the expense of clarity. Others seem to simply collapse the image and add a wierd coloration. But this is just so open sounding, in the most natural ear pleasing way I ever heard in a pluggin.

--The mids are warm -- but the kicker is that they're clean to boot... Q's get pretty narrow, up to 1/15 of an octave I think, but it never sounds too sharp. Maybe for extreme problems a sharper bell might be needed, but otherwise boosts sound good, never grating on the ears.

--In my Nuendo project running BFD and three NI Guitar Rigs (Yup, it really was a hasty in the box recording!), I was only able to run the plug in medium resolution mode with my sample buffers set really high. ... And I have a Dual CPU AMD 1700xp setup, nothing to brag about nowadays, but pretty respectable in the speed department. That left two more levels of resolution which I suppose could improve the sound moreso, although I most likely could only use these via a mixdown export.

The downside -- it costs around $1300US, which is the stratosphere for a plugin. But I'll bet there's plenty of guys in here who do this for a living that would probably pay that kinda money if it lives up to your expectations the way it exceeded mine. I'm already trying to find ways to rationalize the purchase. Was slowly collecting parts to build a homemade Sontec-like EQ circuit but I think I might break down and just go this route instead -- whip out the credit card like a dumbass and worry about it later.

Alright, I'm done kissing these guy's asses -- but I'd love for some of you guys to give it a try and tell me if I'm f'cking crazy... or that it does sound that good.
 

bmanic

Member
There's a new EQ that seems to rival the algorithmix one. The company even provides a free 1 band version (which unfortunately is very buggy at the moment.. can't open more than 1 instance of it without crashing most hosts).

Check it out and don't be fooled by the 'hearing restoration' stuff or the extremely poor GUI, the EQ plugin really is very good and is the first to bring back memories of hearing the Weiss EQ1 for the first time.

Warning: Extreme CPU usage at full quality setting (about 30% for a single band at 44,1khz on an Athlon 3200+ Barton)

http://refinedaudiometrics.com/pages/14/index.htm

Cheers!
bManic
 

Ericcc

Active Member
T-dogg is right....I demo-ed this last year already and I was blown away with it too. The price blew me away as well :) But from all soft EQ's I came across (owning URS/Hydratone/UAD/Poco with Oxford) this one is da bomb and comes closest to real hardware EQ. Yeah, that good...(no affiliation whatsoever)
 

olafmol

Member
Ericcc said:
T-dogg is right....I demo-ed this last year already and I was blown away with it too. The price blew me away as well :) But from all soft EQ's I came across (owning URS/Hydratone/UAD/Poco with Oxford) this one is da bomb and comes closest to real hardware EQ. Yeah, that good...(no affiliation whatsoever)
i've heard some really crappy "real hardware EQ" in my time ;)
 

T-Dogg

Active Member
lol... agreed. Having spent a little more time with it though, I'm still convinced that this is THE plug for mastering applications...

I guess my best clean outboard EQ would be the EQ section of my ISA220, I like it better than that on program material, at least once you factor in the extra conversion steps and all... But then the focusrite is not designed for this sort of work either (its also a mono unit, so the comparison required separate left/right passes!!!)

Anyway, I'm over the impulsive \"oh sh'it\" mindset now too, so the reality of the steep price tag has set in. When the demo runs out, I'll shed a tear for my lost friend... but not so sure I'll be able to throw down the cash to buy it. I did send 'em an email to see if they were considering a rent-to-own thing though! In the end, $1300 will get you a pro-sumer hardware eq... Along those lines, the price isn't so bad -- this thing definately has a classy polished sound, and FWIW I think you need to start thinking very big $$$ (GML?) before you can buy yourself into this league with a hardware EQ... I know its really hard to believe, but... I dunno, if nothing else, it'll make you think twice about what well implemented digital processing is capable of, and it'll make you reconsider everything you thought couldn't yet be accomplished digitally. Still, mastering cats have been using ultra expensive Weiss digital rigs for years, so is it really surprising?
 

T-Dogg

Active Member
Just to give credit where credit is due, I felt the same thing the first time I heard some of UA's plugs, and more importantly they did it in an arena that people like me can afford.

I love the UA plugs, and use them in every project, would not give them up.
 
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