Intel D805 / ASUS P5P800 SE

[Agent Cooper]

Any hands-on experience with that combination and 1 or 2 UADs and/ or Powercore Element/PCI ?
A friend of mine is thinking about upgrading if the whole deal stays below the 200 € mark, he could reuse all his remaining components.
Oh, btw, audio card is a HDSP 9632.
Thanks for any info,
the agent still known as Cooper

 

[downLOaRD]

Hi,
like I've stated in the other thread, the p5p800se board isn't that good with a dual core d8xx or d9xx processor..
to have all of the advantages of dual core/pci-e you have to go with at least the 945 chipset.. much better to choose a 955 or 975 chipset!
Asus p5wd2 board should go for ~130€ and the proc for ~120€.
What type of ram does your friend have?
The only thing he has to change would be the graphics adapter.. that would be ~50€ more (for a way more powerfull card than e.g. a Matrox, if that's why he won't go pci-e).
There are 3 pci slots on this board, so 2 UADs + 1 powercore will fit.
The configuration with UAD-1 works rock-solid! Don't know about the Powercore cause I don't have one, but I assume it will work either...

This combination of Asus p5wd2 (premium) + intel d805 (well overclocked) + Zalman CNPS + 2GB of 667MHz DDR2 ram can't be beaten by any other combination costing more than 300-500 € more in regards of power & reliability + UAD-1 compatibility!

cheers

 

[Guest]

I love mine! (P5P800-SE) besides the fact that my AGP card cost 450 dollars!!!

 

[downLOaRD]

A 450$ AGP card is a reason to stay with an agp compatible board fo sho!
I assume you're controlling more than two monitors..??...
but - provided you don't already have an ultra expensive agp card - you could go with !two! pci-e graphics cards on the p5wd2 board for controlling 4 monitors...

I'm interested.. how's it with dual core usage on that P5P800-SE? I read somewhere that it's not fully supported.

greets

 

[Guest]

The performance increase is incredible (from my 3.2Ghz P4 HT) it is like having 2 of them and i can use many more VSTi's and VST-FX.

I will upgrade in about a year to a new MB and DDR2 with at least 2 PCI slots the rest PCIe. This MB has helped my transition a lot by letting me do it in pieces instead of all at once. I keep putting off the second monitor for other upgrades :?

 

[Agent Cooper]

Hi folks,
many thanks for your valuable suggestions !
My friend's RAM is 1 stick / 1 GB DDR 400, good quality.
So he would have to buy a new VGA and 1, better 2 GB DDR2 RAM, this might be too much atm.
Since the P5P800-SE / Intel Dualcore combination seems to work well with Powercores too, it probably is the better solution for him atm.
Though, downLOaRD, your suggestion is certainly better from a technical perspective, no doubt !
Anyway, good and useful info, guys !
Have a nice weekend,
Cooper

 

[Guest]

also i forgot to mention that if you have any problems first try turning off PCI IDE bus mastering in the BIOS. I have to have it off otherwise i will get a horrible loud noise until i disable the UAD then enable from the UAD-1 meter.

 

[Agent Cooper]

project,
thanks for the info !
Doesn't that fix compromise your HD performance ?
Please keep us informed about any interesting findings with your setup.
My friend will wait for the announced Intel price drop in July, so we have some time to gather info.
Cheers, Cooper

 

[Guest]

It didn't seem to affect performance but ended up not being the cause.
At this point the cause WAS most likely PCI card positions.
I moved the UAD-1's to the last 2 slots and haven't had the problem.

I can't get the problem to reoccur but i will let you know if it turns out to be something different.

I turned Bus mastering for IDE back on.

 

[Guest]

](*,) adding more VST fx and instruments brought me back to the same place! After realizing i had re adjusted the MIN_GNT back to 64(default) i noticed that was what was helping all along. so i dropped it to 8 and in my bios raised my PCI latency to 256 (default is 64). This seems to be better.

I have been maxing out the two UAD-1's and throwing all kinds of effects on my test project and it has only screeched once now. thats one time to many though.

I had a few problems with the last motherboard 2 UAD-1's and a delta card.
when i moved to the MOTU the problems were gone. now this

I can not recommend this mainboard. i would say spend the extra cash but in my experience they are all a crap shoot.

maybe the next one will work :roll:

 

[Agent Cooper]

project,
thanks again for being so open about your experiences.
Very sorry to hear of your problems.
Hope you can solve them soon !
Here are two quotes from the Powercore forum I found this weekend, but you'll have to do a search for the posters, stupid me didn't bookmark.
Maybe they got some tips for you ?

mobo: Asus P5P800 SE (AGP, 4xPCI)
CPU: Intel D 830 3.0 GHz dual core
mem: 1 GB
Audio: Terratec EWS88D
DSP: Powercore PCI mkII, 2 x UAD-1

I had all sort of problems(crackling, static noise, etc...) with my old daw(AMD XP2600+, ASUS A7N8X) and Poco mkII , so I played
safe and went back to Intel after seven years of exclusive AMD diet!

Yes, Intel D series is slower then equivalent AMD X2 series, but the Intel system is rock solid !

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ASUS P5P800 SE
Intel Pentium D 940
2x Corsair CMX512 3200C2 ( 3-3-3-8 )
AGP: MSI RX800SE
WD 160GB on ATA100 ( System )
Samsung Spinpoint 200Gb on SATA ( SATA1 Mode )
PCI1: none
PCI2: UAD-1
PCI3: RME Digi9636
PCI4: TC Powercore PCI

System: Win XP SP2
Cubase SX3.1.1

This System is only a little bit slower (2-3%) as my AMD X2 3800+ with A8V Deluxe. I changed because the freeze Problems.

Hope you'll find a solution !

Cheers, Cooper

 

[Guest]

Well i have tried everything i could possibly try and i still get the burst of sound that could possibly damage my monitors.

Only when i use both UAD-1's does it happen, either one by itself is fine.
I had a similar problem with the last mainboard but it went away when i got rid of the delta66.

So i ordered the mainboard that downLOaRD suggested the ASUS P5WD2
it only has 3 PCI slots but i really dont know what else to do.

3 is all i need anyway 1 firewire card and 2 UAD-1's.

i hope this works! i am really scraping to get this upgrade.

 

[Guest]

finally got the new system up and running and no more noise. the pops are gone too. one major problem though. at a 15% load my cpu temp is 64 degrees Celcius!!! anyone else have this problem with a P5WD2/ D940 combo? same CPU in same case same everything else used to run at 41 degrees idle now in this MB it idles at 58 degrees. i even installed a better CPU fan (Zalamn CNPS9500).

 

[downLOaRD]

The d800 series are known to get really hot.. but this shouldn't happen with your d940.. and you say it used to be around 41 degrees idle.. and now you even have that really good fan on top of it.. so it really should be cooler!
maybe the fan isn't installed properly.. just a guess. are you sure you used the right amount of thermal grease and spread it evenly on the cpu and the fan sits correctly on it?

I can't think of another possibility why it should be hotter now...

cheers

 

[Guest]

ASUS told me to send it back and get another one. I have to wait until i get the $ before i do that. I am not going to go 2 weeks without a computer!

I have the same problem with both the stock fan and the Zalman.
I am sure it is installed correct because i have installed it the same way on both motherboards. and the zalman is much easier to mount IMO.

 

[downLOaRD]

so it's a problem with the board and its cpu fan connector then.. sorry to hear that. I thought asus boards (esp. in that class) are very reliable.
had you checked with the case open if the zalman was running?
cause the cpu would run even without a cooler and regulate itself at a much lower speed when hitting a certain threshold.. i think somewhere near the 70 degrees celsius mark.

 

[Guest]

yeah its running and i have an external fan blowing into the PC until i get the replacement board. at least my problem with 2 UAD-1's and the loud burst of sound is gone. :|