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LA-610 and TLM-103 - a good combination?

Klaus123

Member
I'm thinking about buying the universal channel strip LA610. I already own a Neumann TLM-103 and this channel strip should fit to this microphone since I like it a lot on steel string acoustic guitars and vocals. In one test review at the review area on the ua-website somebody said that together with his TLM-103 he thought the LA610 emphases the presences too much (sylbiance problems). But others said that if you use the built in compressor (wich I most of the time will do, I guess) it will compensate that emphasis.

Does anybody have experiences with that combination? If so it would be nice to hear, to have some arguments for my buying descision.

Greetings

Klaus
 

Eric Dahlberg

Purveyor of musical dreams fullfilled.
That's strange, neither the TLM103 nor the 610 have particularly hyped top-ends so I don't see why the combination would result like that. You would generally choose a 610 if you're looking for a warmer, bigger, more bass-heavy sound, not for clarity or upper-end extention.
 

Klaus123

Member
thank you for your reply. This is been said about the 2-610 preamp. But - as I said - there is a review in the ua-review area where it is said that the LA-610 is different in the upper mids to compensate a possible loss in the compressor stage. And therefor there is a statement about just using the preamp stage and a TLM-103 and getting results with problems with the emphazised sibilance area.

so, here is the part of the review, I'm refering to:

...Setting the LA610 up is very straightforward and the controls are easy and obvious to adjust. I would imagine the majority of users would employ this channel strip to handle vocals, so I started off
plumbing in a Neumann TLM103 and set the gain control to suit a competent male vocalist. The immediate first impression was of a large and open sound quality, but with a very slight overemphasis
on the sibilance region. Depending on the mic in use this could be a blessing or a pain — and with the TLM103 I leaned
towards the latter opinion! In the right circumstances, though, the LA610's slightly forward character would help to emphasise transient detail and presence, but when partnered with a bright mic the combination can sound a tad edgy on its own. Having said that, when the vocal was auditioned within a complete mix I found it did tend to retain a clarity and presence which helped it to cut through easily and without the need for further EQ tweaks on the console. However, few people will ever use the preamp on its own, and it could be argued that the slightly brighter character of the preamp helps to compensate for the inherently darker
tonality of the compressor. Since most people will make use
of the compressor all the time, this swings and roundabouts
approach works extremely well, and the overall sound
character is more or less neutral when the compressor is active.
Swapping the Neumann for the ultra-flat Sennheiser MKH40 revealed the precise spectral balance of the LA610. While it obviously boasts a more 'modern' sound than its forebear, the extra brightness is
relatively subtle and, I think, well judged to balance the compressor's slightly subdued character. The benign equaliser can be used to tailor the sound very easily if necessary, as can careful positioning of
the mic, of course. As I suggested earlier, trading input gain against the output level allows the amount of valve coloration to be adjusted, a balancing act which provides a useful range of characteristics from ultra-clean to obviously distorted — although the latter always sounds musical
and appealing. The distortion character is rich and rounded, adding extra weight and mid-range body in that characteristic way of overdriven triodes. ...

But as I will use the compressor all the time, I guess, this should be no problem.

Thanks

Klaus


BTW: Does anybody know what Bruce Springsteen used on vocals (Mic, Micpre, Comp) on the release \"The Rising\"?
 

Eric Dahlberg

Purveyor of musical dreams fullfilled.
Interesting. As you guessed, I was referring to the 2-610 pre's & did not realize the LA-610's preamp is different. Also, I don't know what recording chain Bruce Springsteen uses but slamming the LA2A hard will give you that same forward, in-your-ear sound.
 

.mr chris

Active Member
a vote for the LA-610, great piece of gear 8)
.c
 

Klaus123

Member
Thanks for your comments. I bought it and it delivers exactly this \"in your ear\" sound I was looking for. Very good. The sound with the TLM 103 is somehow fitted with a good amount of presence (!) wich I didn't expect. I just had to cut the bass area with the built in eq a bit, added a bit LA2A... and wow the male voice stands ready in the mix. It is even very good for direct recording of e-guitars (this EMG pick up strat sounds and jazz) and bass. And I also had good results with recording a guitar amp (Celestion V30 speaker) via MD421: I get a fat rock guitar sound out of it. With the 200Hz Eq I can control the amount of bottom in the sound. But I stop now... As you see... I feel lucky.... ;)

Greetings

Klaus
 
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