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chrisharbin

Hall of Fame Member
Can I ask a question? Is there a "logical" reason to use Linux in this day and age? Windows and Mac OS are fantastic for music production. Windows has never been better if you want to build your own machine. Since this is getting kicked around recently I just want to know. It's been like 15 years since I tried it. Not going to now but I love information and discovering things so I'd just like to know.
 

Gitaarwerk

Venerated Member
Can I ask a question? Is there a "logical" reason to use Linux in this day and age? Windows and Mac OS are fantastic for music production. Windows has never been better if you want to build your own machine. Since this is getting kicked around recently I just want to know. It's been like 15 years since I tried it. Not going to now but I love information and discovering things so I'd just like to know.
absolutely. More and more so even.

The sheer amount of connected integrated applications as AI, or the “recall” option in windows is reason enough for me to jump ship. I don’t want AI anywhere near anything for me, unless I choose so. Right now, I don’t seem to have much of a choice.
I really want to cocoon back towards the middleages, and use tape instead 😩.
 

fsciarra62

New Member
Can I ask a question? Is there a "logical" reason to use Linux in this day and age? Windows and Mac OS are fantastic for music production. Windows has never been better if you want to build your own machine. Since this is getting kicked around recently I just want to know. It's been like 15 years since I tried it. Not going to now but I love information and discovering things so I'd just like to know.
This is not an easy to answer question, in my opinion, it's a very personal choice, driven by necessities and perspective.

All I can do is give you my personal motivations, but as said they are mine.

I need a stable platform I can trust because I can deeply manage it. I'm very scared about flimsy technology, because it's my daily job and I know how many things can go wrong, and I cannot afford a concert with the fear that my gear will crash or will be not ready when I need it.

Now, it comes that I'm quite a seasoned programmer, since 1983, and a very, very long time Linux user. Obviously I've spent more time on Windows because it came first, but the flexibility of "those" time has gone, honestly for both: Linux too has become quite cumbersome at times, because it needs to be more "user-friendly" and "user" is a strange concept... to be very close to a novice makes, often, things more complicated for proficient because the unneeded added layers. Anyway, with a bit of time, on Linux, you can always understand how to find "your correct way" to do things reliably.

When I have concerts with my most active group, we start sound-check let's say around 17:30 and concert starts at 21:00, all the gear is powered and connected, all software fired, everything ready.
I cannot think about it going peanuts by itself or anything when I'll be back on stage: Linux gives me that confidence.

Moreover, I have severe sight troubles and need a customized GUI, in terms of colors and fonts, etc. And also, use the mouse on screen is often quite difficult, go figure going tons of times on menus and stuff... So I have set up a very flexible and light environment that's right for me, and I use Bitwig Studio for live playing, that perfectly fits my needs. Also, CPU usage is lighter, on my comparison on my own box under windows, and I need this because I play everything live, no backing tracks, so all my synths run in real-time, and I layer a lot.

So, as you can see, I use Linux because it fully fits my needs, far better than others to my current experience. Don't ask me about Mac. I'm totally noob using Mac, I don't understand the philosophy of the interface, it doesn't fit me. I've tried and cannot use it. Imagine, I use XFCE on my Linux, minimal and lightning fast.

So, customizability, reliability and proficiency are my motivations. I'm sure you can have yours, just need to try.

Cheers,
Fabrizio
 
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chrisharbin

Hall of Fame Member
Well I appreciate the insight guys. I'm not going to use it, but it's interesting to know. I guess for me it's like "well this works, why do I need Linux" but everyone has their needs whatever.
 

UniversalAudio

Official UA Representative
As I have mentioned before on this topic, the market will certainly drive this.

As soon as Pro Tools, Logic, Ableton, Cubase, etc start supporting Linux, we'll be forced to have a look.
 

fsciarra62

New Member
As I have mentioned before on this topic, the market will certainly drive this.

As soon as Pro Tools, Logic, Ableton, Cubase, etc start supporting Linux, we'll be forced to have a look.
I know that Bitwig, Reaper and Studio One are not enough. Anyway, consider that Linux musicians do buy hardware, too, other than DAW. I cannot buy any Apollo card, and like me, many. This has to be considered, too. It's a chicken/egg (or even a Mexican standoff, lol!)...

Best regards,
Fabrizio
 

Neotrope

Venerated Member
FYI - debloat and quash copilot in Windows 11 --
 

fsciarra62

New Member
This is one of the many reasons I'm asking for Linux support... I don't want to waste my time to avoid the OS interfere with my music.
I don't need to do these things on Linux.
Anyway thanks, I've already done many of these things probably, but I will follow this video to do better: I have one person in my company, my CEO, that still use Windows, and he's the biggest real threat to our security because of that...
So thanks a lot.
Best regards
Fabrizio
 

fsciarra62

New Member
Can I ask what these are?
Hi, I've already written about this above.

Anyway.

Each time I've tried to use a Mac, I've been heavily uncomfortable with the GUI. I know that it's a Unix system nowadays, so I might do many things using shell, but also the OS is... how to say... different... I don't feel at home.

Probably it's simply that I'm not used to and the only period I had to really work on a Mac was to help one of our workers to accomplish some tasks related to a java stack for a web application, but everything looked complicated because of strange restrictions and stuff I don't even remember. Just, the experience was bad. Wasn't that easy to install/remove libraries and dev tools, etc.

Keep into account that I've worked on the first Mac model, at that time:
I've started working in 1983, actually I'm born as an Apple II programmer a couple of years before.
But I've always hated working on Mac, even at that time, because of the general philosophy, whatever it is: was nice as a word processor and office automation, a hog for programming, for my taste. I was mainly working on Digital VAX, and some MS-DOS computers, then.
(I know, I know... I remember very well that initially Macintosh wasn't supposed to be used for development, that was the task for Lisa)

Consider that this is my personal experience, not for everybody, as it's evident. When I've worked in the USA, for almost one year, everybody had a Mac, and a Windows for gaming.

Anyway, back on topic.

I also have severe sight damages, and it's difficult for me to work with GUI heavily mouse oriented. That happens with Linux, too.
I've configured my computer in order to have fewer troubles and Linux allows me to change GUI and windows manager on my needs.
Maybe this can be done on Mac, too. Is it possible? Can you change the GUI? Or the decorator?

Maybe one day I will try the Mac route again, if I will be forced to abandon Linux.

Until then, I don't feel comfortable and I won't buy one.

Why did you ask?

Regards,

Fabrizio
 
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fsciarra62

New Member
Just curious. Thanks for the reply.
Look what you've done!!!!
I stopped making music and studying Falcon and Dune3 for next rehearsal and forced me to find an AppleII emulator...
Now you're close to the top in my list of hated people... sgrunt!!!
LOLOLOLOL
Found kegs, compiled it, started, closed, back to music.... lololol
Thanks for making me jump in the past... :)
Juicy respects,
Fabrizio

PS. I hope it's clear I was kidding... the flow of remembers made me thinking about CALL -151
Wanted that feeling but not there, yet... lol cheers.
 

WildeGeist

New Member
Tired of Apple and Microsoft (and Avid too) "impositions" I would really like to go back to Linux for my DAWs but unfortunately my Apollo audio interfaces and my UAD plugins doesn't work on Linux. Linux is a mature OS and there are excellent softwares for creating music at a professional level. UAD produces great hardware and great plugins, it would be great to be able to use them on Linux. Unfortunately, I fear that the problem is more political than technical...

I have completely abandoned both myself. So done. All-In Linux but gotta admit the lack of Documentation that is useful is hard to deal with but worth it in the long haul I believe. Any Hardware that does not easily cooperate I get rid of and migrate to things that are more doable. Its a weeding out process. I have hunkered down with BITWIG Studio as my DAW; I dont care for it as much as others I wish would work with Linux but since it WORKS I use that on Linux to decide what Hardware I buy now. Tascam is getting a lot going for it and Focusrite recently for Linux. I traded my 476P for Model 12 Tascam. Getting there. I got rid of the iPhone but still have an iPad. Everything else Apple I got rid of and anything with Windows has Linux on it. I aint going back.
 
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