marcuswuest
New Member
Hi everyone!
I just got L7.1 and played with it a bit.
The PDC seems to work flawlessly, which is great.
BUT:
the Bypass Issue is still present!
:x :| ](*,)
to be honest, I anticipted it in a way as no one at apple seemed to have a clue about it let alone to be interesed in that issue.
UA didn't tell anything about it due to that NDA agreements they have with apple.
the lack of interest on that issue made it predictable that nothing will be fixed in 7.1.
- and probably never will - tests made clear that it's an issue with the AU protocol. - every app with AU has that problem, VST does work OK.
VST->AU converted plugs don't work again.
Apple stated to me that every adjustments have been made to the AU protocol by the release of LP7.1, so it seems there will be no help from apple in the future regarding this.
But that \"little\" issue causes a major drawback in my workflow, as I always have to render Tracks manually, reimport them, save plugin presets, kill plugin-instances again etc..that really costs time.. :|
Well, I don't know how much priority is on that issue at UA, as it could be politically motivated (you can't really freeze that plugs in logic, so people have to buy more cards to use more plugs).
But that doesn't make sense as the VST Plugs do work in that manner.
so the fact that this is generally possible (with vst hosts) is a huge big-up for UA to priorise technical convienience against economical tactics! Great UA!! =D>
But then it seems unfair for AU users not to be able to benefit from that feature..
By the time (and the release of the still-faulty LP7.1) I don't believe we'll get cure on that anymore so my basic thoughts are wether to base my mixes more on HQ native plugs (like the URS stuf, etc.) or - if I can afford it - to get another host software like Nuendo or Samplitude on PC (which is great!) for (efficiently) mixing my stuff. :-(
but that's ridiculous having to capitulate from such a alleged small issue..
At the end another technical thought:
UA, could it be that your released AU plugs are just kind of VST->AU converted plugins?
My assumtion comes from the fact that you are cooperating with FXpansion with the VST->RTAS thing, and the lower bar (VST Preset load/save) in the AU plugins looks suspiciously similar to other vst->AU converted plugs with the FXpansion Wrapper.
If that's the case, maybe the bypass issue in AU hosts derives from the code of the wrapper and not from the AU protocol itself?
maybe that could be a single thing where apple isn't guilty..
:lol:
OK that's enough for now, I still hope for better days regarding that :wink:
in every other aspect, UA, keep up that good work!
Ciao, marcus
I just got L7.1 and played with it a bit.
The PDC seems to work flawlessly, which is great.
BUT:
the Bypass Issue is still present!
:x :| ](*,) to be honest, I anticipted it in a way as no one at apple seemed to have a clue about it let alone to be interesed in that issue.
UA didn't tell anything about it due to that NDA agreements they have with apple.
the lack of interest on that issue made it predictable that nothing will be fixed in 7.1.
- and probably never will - tests made clear that it's an issue with the AU protocol. - every app with AU has that problem, VST does work OK.
VST->AU converted plugs don't work again.
Apple stated to me that every adjustments have been made to the AU protocol by the release of LP7.1, so it seems there will be no help from apple in the future regarding this.
But that \"little\" issue causes a major drawback in my workflow, as I always have to render Tracks manually, reimport them, save plugin presets, kill plugin-instances again etc..that really costs time.. :|
Well, I don't know how much priority is on that issue at UA, as it could be politically motivated (you can't really freeze that plugs in logic, so people have to buy more cards to use more plugs).
But that doesn't make sense as the VST Plugs do work in that manner.
so the fact that this is generally possible (with vst hosts) is a huge big-up for UA to priorise technical convienience against economical tactics! Great UA!! =D>
But then it seems unfair for AU users not to be able to benefit from that feature..
By the time (and the release of the still-faulty LP7.1) I don't believe we'll get cure on that anymore so my basic thoughts are wether to base my mixes more on HQ native plugs (like the URS stuf, etc.) or - if I can afford it - to get another host software like Nuendo or Samplitude on PC (which is great!) for (efficiently) mixing my stuff. :-(
but that's ridiculous having to capitulate from such a alleged small issue..
At the end another technical thought:
UA, could it be that your released AU plugs are just kind of VST->AU converted plugins?
My assumtion comes from the fact that you are cooperating with FXpansion with the VST->RTAS thing, and the lower bar (VST Preset load/save) in the AU plugins looks suspiciously similar to other vst->AU converted plugs with the FXpansion Wrapper.
If that's the case, maybe the bypass issue in AU hosts derives from the code of the wrapper and not from the AU protocol itself?
maybe that could be a single thing where apple isn't guilty..
:lol:
OK that's enough for now, I still hope for better days regarding that :wink:
in every other aspect, UA, keep up that good work!
Ciao, marcus