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Logic Pro 7.2 ready in February!

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esencia

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Here is the release notes for 7.2

http://www.apple.com/logicpro/crossgrade.html

There no mention about fixes about full delay compensation and DSP cards (like Uad). May be someone from Uaudio could confirm us if UAD_1 latency issues will be solved with this release...
 
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F5D

Active Member
Could somebody explain how the PDC works (or doesn't work)now in Logic 7.1.1? I heard that it compensates only the first fx slot? Does this happen only when the PDC is set to \"All\" or does it work when using the PDC for audio tracks + instruments? And is this problem only with UAD1 plugins? Does this also affect other plugins like Powercore and some native ones which introduce latency?

I use Logic with the old style PDC (audio tracks + instruments) and have both uad1 and powercore. Should I be worried? Sometimes it's just so difficult to say whether there is latency or not and does it get compensated or not.

Btw, the 7.2 update doesn't seem to bring anything important and apple wants us to pay again. :evil:
 
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boody

Established Member
if there is latency, trust me, it's _not_ difficult to hear it: you music will sound messed up. Logic has full pdc with two drawbacks:
-external midi will not be in sync
-recorded audio with full pdc on will not be in sync

If you use the trackadvance plugin the number of plugins set will not matter: 1 trackadvance plug will compensate for 1 plug only. (+sends to busses without uad plugs will be early when using track advance)
If you use delaycompensation plug on the busses extern midi will not be in sync.

In short: every problem has a workaround, every workaround has a problem :roll:

cheers
Budy
 
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polygen

Active Member
yes, the 7.2 update seems...boring. the 50 bucks are absolutely okay (heck, i've spent 5k or more on logic since i bought logic audio v2.6) but i wish that the update would have added something new aside of GARAGEBAND 3 support (and plugins). Like multichannel bussing, multichannel file editing, multichannel AU support, offline AU support in the sample editor, general enhancements to the sample editor, exs24MK II, denoising options from STP ported over....nope. GB3 support and a bunch of jingles. oh well. when is that uad-1073 gonna be available?
 
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O.

Member
You mean something like this? :

32-channel support for multi-channel Audio Units instruments
Users of multi-channel Audio Unit instrument applications — such as the popular BFD — will welcome increased output capacity to 32 mono-channels.


(From the apple page)

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polygen

Active Member
O. said:
You mean something like this? :

32-channel support for multi-channel Audio Units instruments
Users of multi-channel Audio Unit instrument applications — such as the popular BFD — will welcome increased output capacity to 32 mono-channels.


(From the apple page)

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no, i don't mean multi-channel as in "multiple individual outputs", i mean multi-channel as in "5.1, 7.1 or as many channels as your format requires".
 
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O.

Member
aaah ok, gotcha.
Never worked with surround myself, but doesn't Logic support that properly?
I know it has *some* surround features, but...
 
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polygen

Active Member
O. said:
aaah ok, gotcha.
Never worked with surround myself, but doesn't Logic support that properly?
I know it has *some* surround features, but...
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nope, it doesn't...you can do mono>surround and stereo>surround *panning* but not surround>surround; AND you can in none of these configurations instantiate a plugin with more than two channels even though the AU standard allows for this (so you end up playing back 6 mono files panned to 3 stereo outputs and calling that "surround"); this means you cannot properly compress a surround signal, as that would require a six channel compressor. in sx or nuendo or dp (or or or) it's dead easy....bundle 6 channels or busses to a 5.1 channel/bus, insert a plugin that is capable of providing n channels...done.
 
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NEWRIGEL

Active Member
polygen said:
O. said:
You mean something like this? :

32-channel support for multi-channel Audio Units instruments
Users of multi-channel Audio Unit instrument applications — such as the popular BFD — will welcome increased output capacity to 32 mono-channels.


(From the apple page)

O.
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no, i don't mean multi-channel as in "multiple individual outputs", i mean multi-channel as in "5.1, 7.1 or as many channels as your format requires".
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Just run busses with the approprate output assignments for each channel...
there's workarounds... I use DP so I don't have this problem.
 
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headz

New Member
polygen said:
no, there is no way to emulate multichannel compression with multiple stereo busses (sidechain needs to be linked which is impossible in such a workaround-setting). i do have Dp 4.6, and yes, it doesn't have this problem.

we're talking about logic, however.
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BUT there might be a way with URS comps and their sidechain possibilty to get feed by ext. signal (audio track or bus) and obviously Logic to make this work - this way your signal feeding the sidechain of multible URS comp instances would be exactly what is asked for this should work up to 64 busses with comps inserted (whoever needs this ;).... check out the detailed features of logic sidechaining and that special comps released by the 'non' uad vendor...
 
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esencia

Member
Logic Pro 7.2 increases compatibility with important third-party hardware and software.
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does this mean that new Logic will solve all our UAD-1 latency problems?

James.. could you confirm us anything about this please?
 
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esencia

Member
headz said:
polygen said:
no, there is no way to emulate multichannel compression with multiple stereo busses (sidechain needs to be linked which is impossible in such a workaround-setting). i do have Dp 4.6, and yes, it doesn't have this problem.

we're talking about logic, however.
Click to expand...
BUT there might be a way with URS comps and their sidechain possibilty to get feed by ext. signal (audio track or bus) and obviously Logic to make this work - this way your signal feeding the sidechain of multible URS comp instances would be exactly what is asked for this should work up to 64 busses with comps inserted (whoever needs this ;).... check out the detailed features of logic sidechaining and that special comps released by the 'non' uad vendor...
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do URS comps own sidechain feature within logic in the same way that Logic compressor has?
 
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esencia

Member
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headz

New Member
esencia said:
do URS comps own sidechain feature within logic in the same way that Logic compressor has?
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YES exactly same funktionality as with logics own sidechain BUT leagues better sounding...check the demo
 
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