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Neve 1073 - $249???
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macmusic78
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...wich can be a good thing - cause the exchange rate for euro is good a the moment 
anyhow i guess that neve want to have quite a share - that´s why... my guess. I only hope that the neve doesn´t become redundant by the 1084 , maybe released at a later point...
anyhow i guess that neve want to have quite a share - that´s why... my guess. I only hope that the neve doesn´t become redundant by the 1084 , maybe released at a later point...
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it is a steep price to pay, but i bit the bullet and bought it. After i used to 1073 all over the place and then realized i wouldn't be able to keep the mix i had acheived with any other EQ plugin i have.
do yourself a favor and remove it from any project you have after demoing it unless you have the cash!
do yourself a favor and remove it from any project you have after demoing it unless you have the cash!
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No way. the software can not replace the Mic pre's.
Software does require R&D but so does hardware. There are no expensive parts inside the software. you can not compare hardware pricing to software pricing and say it is a bargain. logically at least. \/
Software does require R&D but so does hardware. There are no expensive parts inside the software. you can not compare hardware pricing to software pricing and say it is a bargain. logically at least.
\/Tony Ostinato
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The hardware parts dont add up to 7 grand either.
whats more valuable in both cases is the knowledge.
and since they sound so similar, and they reprtedly do (i havent had free time yet to install) then it is a fair comparison because even more than price we care about the sound.
that whole \"plugins should be cheap (free) cause theyre software\" thing is pretty much over now, but i hope you enjoyed it while it lasted.
whats more valuable in both cases is the knowledge.
and since they sound so similar, and they reprtedly do (i havent had free time yet to install) then it is a fair comparison because even more than price we care about the sound.
that whole \"plugins should be cheap (free) cause theyre software\" thing is pretty much over now, but i hope you enjoyed it while it lasted.
A Gruesome Discovery
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Not this again.
well compared to the waves, oxford and many other plugs....its a great deal.
in fact i was going to go poco but then decided against it after trying the 1073.
$600 each per sony eq and dynamics , $370 for the inflator... i decided i'm just getting more uad cards until i fill up my pc with neves.
8)
in fact i was going to go poco but then decided against it after trying the 1073.
$600 each per sony eq and dynamics , $370 for the inflator... i decided i'm just getting more uad cards until i fill up my pc with neves.
8)
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The UAD-1 blows the poco away in a bang for buck comparison.
But even though the hardware units parts do not add up to 7,000 dollars
you still can not compare the hardware and the software.
why dont you compare the Vintech hardware to the 1073 hardware.
now there is a good deal IMHO. i would compare those two on price.
But even though the hardware units parts do not add up to 7,000 dollars
you still can not compare the hardware and the software.
why dont you compare the Vintech hardware to the 1073 hardware.
now there is a good deal IMHO. i would compare those two on price.
Methinks the point is being missed here...
I'm comparing the price to OTHER UAD SOFTWARE. :roll:
Telling me the price is justified because of the hardware being ludicrously priced is nonsense.
Is the effort, man-hours equipment hired etc more than was spent on doing the Pultec eq??
I think this is a cheap ploy to drive up the sales of UAD cards - $100 discount if you buy another card??! that would put the price at $149
Sound far fetched? Maybe, but keep in mind most UAD fans already own a card and a no. of plugs, so to keep pushing card sales, knowing that most of us were waiting for the Neve...
I'm comparing the price to OTHER UAD SOFTWARE. :roll:
Telling me the price is justified because of the hardware being ludicrously priced is nonsense.
Is the effort, man-hours equipment hired etc more than was spent on doing the Pultec eq??
I think this is a cheap ploy to drive up the sales of UAD cards - $100 discount if you buy another card??! that would put the price at $149
Sound far fetched? Maybe, but keep in mind most UAD fans already own a card and a no. of plugs, so to keep pushing card sales, knowing that most of us were waiting for the Neve...
Tony Ostinato
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Ok, lets deal with that elephant in the room, the point of the matter,
its got the Neve name on it.
thats why it costs so much, thats why theres no coupon (well there kinda is if you buy another card).
as pointed out by someone over at nuendos forum ill bet hes not all that thrilled to have his name on anything digital.
with UA's stuff and also to an extent with the pultec and fairchild the name game wasnt so high stakes, but when they start putting other companies names like Roland and Neve, well ya gotta pay Roland and Neve and i bet they want a piece of each sale.
The boringly obvious comparison is what happened to elemental audio plugins when Nichols tacked on his name.
UA wouldnt be able to get away with this if the plugin werent pretty damn good. Do you think they will? I kinda think they will.
its got the Neve name on it.
thats why it costs so much, thats why theres no coupon (well there kinda is if you buy another card).
as pointed out by someone over at nuendos forum ill bet hes not all that thrilled to have his name on anything digital.
with UA's stuff and also to an extent with the pultec and fairchild the name game wasnt so high stakes, but when they start putting other companies names like Roland and Neve, well ya gotta pay Roland and Neve and i bet they want a piece of each sale.
The boringly obvious comparison is what happened to elemental audio plugins when Nichols tacked on his name.
UA wouldnt be able to get away with this if the plugin werent pretty damn good. Do you think they will? I kinda think they will.
Giles117 DP
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I am glad he is comparing the price to other Neve authorized UAD software.
Boy where are those damn chickens.. cheep cheep cheep...
I wonder how many CD's you have to sell to justify buying this plugin to make money making music????? Hmmm.. Lemme see.... at $15.00 per unit.....17 CD's should cover it. Wow Just 17 CD's and my investment is paid off???!!! Thats so cool. I can sell 17 cd's in 2 days by myself.... Heck...... Do a show and sell em in one day. Dang... More professionalism. Guess I should putz around and buy a 4K keyboard so I can make music in my basement for me and my friends. (DUH!!!!!!!)
Dang Glad my wife and I hit the the streets and sold 5000 of her 1st release out of our trunk within the 1st 6 months. It justfied all the software and hardware we bought.
If you are in this business as what it really is, a business, quit whining. If you are here to putz around, why do you need high end tools or replicas thereof...
Oops, got sucked into this \"Oh the price is killing me discussion again.\" Well lets move on....
Boy where are those damn chickens.. cheep cheep cheep...
I wonder how many CD's you have to sell to justify buying this plugin to make money making music????? Hmmm.. Lemme see.... at $15.00 per unit.....17 CD's should cover it. Wow Just 17 CD's and my investment is paid off???!!! Thats so cool. I can sell 17 cd's in 2 days by myself.... Heck...... Do a show and sell em in one day. Dang... More professionalism. Guess I should putz around and buy a 4K keyboard so I can make music in my basement for me and my friends. (DUH!!!!!!!)
Dang Glad my wife and I hit the the streets and sold 5000 of her 1st release out of our trunk within the 1st 6 months. It justfied all the software and hardware we bought.
If you are in this business as what it really is, a business, quit whining. If you are here to putz around, why do you need high end tools or replicas thereof...
Oops, got sucked into this \"Oh the price is killing me discussion again.\" Well lets move on....
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:lol: go for it money bags!
svs95
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Oh for pity's sake! WTF! Why do we have to chew this same cud every time UA releases something?
Face it, the only price UA could announce that would please everybody is free!
Do you think for a minute that they would price these things a penney higher than they absolutely have to in order to maintain the margins they need to stay in business? If so, then you know nothing about business!
UA are well aware that theirs is not the only product out there on which you can spend your hard-earned money. They also know that if they price it too high, you're going to avoid buying it. This is something they do not want to happen.
Most likely they do market research to get a reasonable estimate of how many of something they can expect to sell, calculate their margins based on that, run the research again to find out the point at which price aversion affects sales, and set the final price below that figure. How in the world else could they do it?
In fact, I think they are far more sensitve to this than anybody else of any quality that I know of.
Let's PLEASE for the love of all that's decent, leave this subject and never come back!
Face it, the only price UA could announce that would please everybody is free!
Do you think for a minute that they would price these things a penney higher than they absolutely have to in order to maintain the margins they need to stay in business? If so, then you know nothing about business!
UA are well aware that theirs is not the only product out there on which you can spend your hard-earned money. They also know that if they price it too high, you're going to avoid buying it. This is something they do not want to happen.
Most likely they do market research to get a reasonable estimate of how many of something they can expect to sell, calculate their margins based on that, run the research again to find out the point at which price aversion affects sales, and set the final price below that figure. How in the world else could they do it?
In fact, I think they are far more sensitve to this than anybody else of any quality that I know of.
Let's PLEASE for the love of all that's decent, leave this subject and never come back!
Paul Woodlock
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svs95 said:
LOL!
Even it was free, there'd ALWAYS be someone who would moan!
:mrgreen:
I disagree.svs95 said:
I don't want it free. I want it a -bit- less. I object to the generalised price creep which has begun in the DAW world.
Look @ sample libs or things like the IK Ampeg VSTX. They're all getting out of control.
Yes, they have to make a living, but I think a certain amount of it is just determining what the market will bear as opposed to what they -need- to charge. Oil companies don't -need- to charge $73/bbl, but they can. So they do.
-My- modest proposal is that UAD plugs s.b. priced PER CARD. That way all you manly guys ('Manley' guys?) with 7 cards in a Magma would pay more for the Neve than poor sods such as meself with only 2 or 3.
For example, why not make Neve be priced @ $99 for 1 card. $149 for 2, $199 for 3 and so on? Gee that would price it @ $299 for 4 cards. No problem for all you pros. And amateur schleps like me wouldn't feel quite so put upon.
---JC
cane creek
Established Member
some of us just make music for a hobby/fun yet still want to buy the best plugins...and why not...Giles117 DP said:
if my hobby was fishing i'd be paying more money for a good reel than i would for a neve plugin...
so having to 'justify buying' aint always the issue here :wink:
svs95
Shareholder
You see? There's our first complaint that free isn't cheap enough! :mrgreen: :wink:Suntower said:
Look, people, this worry was expressed the last time UA priced something a bit above their customary price point, and guess what? It was a licensed brand-name arrangement as well! I don't think anybody needs to worry that UA have suddenly become greedy little pigs. I think their margins are pretty stable.Suntower said:
If they are going to only do emulations of stuff made by people who are out of business, then you can expect their prices to remain close to previous instances of that. But if you want them to do Neve emulations, you have to pay the Neve people, and still meet your margins. They love what they're doing at UA, but they're not doing it just for love. They have an obligation to themselves and to us not to make bone-headed idealistic business decisions that cause them to go belly-up.
There is already a four-card limit for which a license will function. You cannot spread instances of an individually-licensed UAD-1 plug-in across seven cards. So they already have that limitation in effect.Suntower said:
UA should not have to know or care which of their customers is pro and which is not. Do hardware companies have one set of prices for pros and one set for poor sods? Do oil companies? Get a life people! And hurry up about it.Suntower said:
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