OX Stomp to pair with Lion and Dream

[clau_77]

I have both Lion and Dream and I am pretty happy with the sound. I am a very simple guy when talking about sound I run my Dream pretty hard and I push it just with one overdrive. I don't need reverb or other things. For the Lion I just use the guitar and the volume knob nothing more.

I have read may comments saying the the OX stomp is a fantastic pair for the UAFX pedal but do you think it is still worth for someone like me running those pedals this way.

Do you think I would find my self adding reverbs, delay and compression if I had the Ox stomp'

Thanks.

 

[Eric Dahlberg]

Probably not. If you're a simple guy and you're happy with what you have, the Ox Stomp will be an extra layer of unnecessary complication. For example, if you enjoy using the presets, you'll have to edit the cabinet out of every single one of them.

 

[jaeger28]

One argument for it is being able to run stereo cab/room when chaining the two amp pedals for one button swap. For me the combination of lion/woodrow/stomp is perfection. I like to run just one cab at two volume and effect levels on the stomp for consistency on the gig. Perfect for me.

 

[rodd]

I agree with @Eric Dahlberg, and I’ll add that you probably wouldn’t use the effects in ox stomp anyway, because you pretty much have to rely on the app to use them, unless you build them into presets. If you find that you want effects you may be happier adding those specific pedals. But, the cabs and room are good in ox, as well as the effects, it’s just not really easy to adjust them in the fly (using knobs). The other uafx pedals and amps give you most of the functionality on the knobs, but ox is more complex. If you like simple, it’s probably not for you.

 

[clau_77]

Thank you all for the response. I think it’s not for me as you wrote.

This forum in an amazing and useful add to the uafx experience.

 

[rodd]

Fwiw, I have ox (the OG) with the line-in mod and I don’t use it with my uafx amp pedals. I really like the room sounds out of those pedals, and I have other (uafx) pedals to give me delay, chorus, and comp. So don’t feel like you’re mixing out too much.

 

[Jips]

I don’t use the stomp with the UAD Amp pedals. But I do use it with my Tech 21 character pedals (with cab emulator of) and it sounds great. Also, the Crazy Tube Circuits Hi Power (Hiwatt emulator) pedal sounds great with the stomp.

 

[Iusedtobeabiker]

I don’t use the stomp with the UAD Amp pedals. But I do use it with my Tech 21 character pedals (with cab emulator of) and it sounds great. Also, the Crazy Tube Circuits Hi Power (Hiwatt emulator) pedal sounds great with the stomp.

I have a fly rig Brit and can’t turn off the cab emulator. How do the character pedals plus ox stomp compare to the UAD amp pedals?

 

[Eric Dahlberg]

Dang, I had a custom-modded PSA-1.1 that could bypass the cabinet emulation. Now I'm wishing I hadn't sold it.

 

[Jips]

I have a fly rig Brit and can’t turn off the cab emulator. How do the character pedals plus ox stomp compare to the UAD amp pedals?

These are differences kind of animals. The Lion is more versatile than the Brit, However, you need to be very careful in adjusting the settings in the Tech pedals. Tiny changes make a big difference in sound. The Tech pedals without ir’s or the Stomp sound to direct in your face, in my taste. Hwover the Tech pedals with the Stomp can sound big! I love the Leeds pedal the most.

 

[Jips]

Also, the Thorpy Scarlett Tunic and the Stomp work reallly well.

 

[FastRedPonyCar]

I think that the main benefit of the OX Stomp would be more flexibility with the cab simulation. The reverb, delay and comp are nice to have if you don't already have something for those effects or are cramped for space but I wouldn't buy the ox stomp just for those.

If you're using the dream and lion, and want to switch between the two for your clean sound and drive sound, you could disable cab sim on the pedals and run them into an AYB box and then that into the OX stomp.

It may be worth at least giving it a shot to see how you like it and it's something I've considered myself. In my head, I'd like to think that running both into the same cab sim would give a bit more uniform sound and continuity and (for me personally) I think that the extra flexibility in the Ox stomp really elevate the Lion's sound to a bigger sound than I was able to get from the built in cabs.

I think that the cabs in the Lion itself sound perfectly fine and the post-registration 4x12 V30 cab sounds the best of the 6 but I greatly prefer the V30 4x12 in the OX stomp.

 

[Telecommuter]

I think that the extra flexibility in the Ox stomp really elevate the Lion's sound to a bigger sound than I was able to get from the built in cabs.

How are you setting up your OX Stomp to get the bigger sound? I have the Lion, and the stock GB25 feels so much more “natural” than any of the GB25 presets on the OX Stomp, it’s weird! I’m really wanting to unlock the pedal, but I keep going back to the stock cab on the Lion.

 

[Eric Dahlberg]

How are you setting up your OX Stomp to get the bigger sound? I have the Lion, and the stock GB25 feels so much more “natural” than any of the GB25 presets on the OX Stomp, it’s weird! I’m really wanting to unlock the pedal, but I keep going back to the stock cab on the Lion.

He likes the V30's. If you prefer the sound of GB25's, the recommendation probably won't work for you. Totally different speakers.

FWIW, GB25's and V30's work really well together. I think the only way to get that sound with Ox Stomp is to get two of them. However, Ox Stomp can blend two separate close mics, and a combination of the Dynamic 57 and Condenser 67 will give you a similar effect.

 

[FastRedPonyCar]

How are you setting up your OX Stomp to get the bigger sound? I have the Lion, and the stock GB25 feels so much more “natural” than any of the GB25 presets on the OX Stomp, it’s weird! I’m really wanting to unlock the pedal, but I keep going back to the stock cab on the Lion.

I use the V30 4x12 model. I haven't spent a lot of time with any other cabs. The marshall v30 4x12 has that "just right" voice for how I like to use the Lion and a few other devices I've run into the OX Stomp.

I don't do any stereo stuff with mine. You can but I run everything centered because I run 1 output to house and one to an FRFR behind me on stage so I want a uniform sound going to both destinations.

 

[EoSNJ]

With multiple UA Amp boxes and the OX Stomp, seems that most are running stereo to stereo. I have all 4 amp boxes and the Ox Stomp. I run an ABY box to split the guitar signal. Each side has 2 amp boxes, each running mono in/mono out. Dream>Lion on one side, Ruby>Woodrow on the other. These converge back to the Left and Right inputs of the Ox Stomp.

I can set both OXS 'Mic's to DI, and use the Amp boxes Cabs, but panned in the OXS. Like mic'ing 2 mono amps. Or, turn off the cabs on the Amp boxes, and run them through a cab model in OXS - each with its own mic and panning. Or ya can mix and match.

This is capable of producing some huge monstrous sounds. Even basic sounds get really cool stereo imaging from how the different amps react to picking attack.

Run Ruby and Dreams trem/vibrato channels in dual mono and you get insane modulations.

Dual mono. try it.

the only down side is it really, really relies on that incredibly bad OX Stomp app to tweak these setups.