Please don't drop OS9 support

[Diki Ross]

Just a note to UA.........

My UAD-1's don't seem quite the bargain anymore if I have to buy a $2000 G5 just to run the latest plugs. The whole point of having UAD-1's was to keep my Quicksilver733 and NOT have to get a G5 and lose all my OS9 software. I for one am not ready to give up my familiarity with Cubase VST and it's (IMHO) far superior MIDI implimentation. SX3.1 is here and it is still crippled compared to VST's MIDI editing and handling (it only JUST got back the MIDI device mixers after 3 years!)

What can be so difficult about including new plugs to an already robust OS9 framework? I get almost no problems from all the last few plugs on OS9, why drop what must be an already familiar coding exercise? There is no new core functionality to the card (chaining plugs, side-chain keying etc.) so why drop support for the OS that needs it the most?

 

[Akis]

AFAIK, UA still support OS9 - at least 3.9 is released for OS9 as well.

 

[Trace]

I still have a G4 with OS9 on it. I use it for Legacy stuff. I have a Korg Oasys PCI in there and some older software. I can understand your point, but eventually every company has to decide when its time to move on. At least for now you still have OS9 support with all the latest and greatest stuff.
It may be a while before there's any major update so you shouldn't worry for now.

I now have a G5 as my main rig and tho it took a major investment, its about the same amount I paid in 99 for my G4, so I can't complain. Time to start saving up.

What software are you using under OS9?

TRACE

 

[Dragon_Huang]

Ya...UA is a nice company.. still support for OS9 stuff...

If you got TC poco, then you will know. OS9 is already history for them..

No support for OS9 after driver 1.8. (latest is 1.95 OSX only)

 

[Diki Ross]

In case you missed it then, UA announced 3.9 is the LAST update for OS9. This means the upcoming Dimension D and Space Echo sims will NOT work for OS9.

I still don't understand why, if there is no new card functionality, the new plugs can't be rolled into the existing OS9 framework. This just reeks of corporate cost-cutting, not any technical reason.

I use Cubase VST 5.2pb as my main sequencer... no timing problems with my Midex here!

If TC have dropped OS9, there's one more reason to continue! Not only is the UAD-1 cheaper and better, but it could increase it's market share by continuing to sopport OS9.

Come on, everyone who still does significant work in OS9.. chime in, let's see if we can get the UAD fans to override the bean-counters...........

 

[ghoost]

In case you missed it then, UA announced 3.9 is the LAST update for OS9.

yup .... as of the end of the year, support for OS 9 willl discontinue ... just found out yesterday. Time to readjust your thinking cap.

let's see if we can get the UAD fans to override the bean-counters...........

not likely ... things progress whether you like it or not :? I'll be changing to OS X in a month or so. 3.9 was the last peice of the puzzel for me

 

[ghoost]

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[color=dark blue]not likely ... things progress whether you like it or not :? I'll be changing to OS X in a month or so. 3.9 was the last peice of the puzzel for me[/color]

 

[ghoost]

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[color=dark blue]not likely ... things progress whether you like it or not :? I'll be changing to OS X in a month or so. 3.9 was the last peice of the puzzel for me[/color]

 

[Trace]

Come on, everyone who still does significant work in OS9.. chime in, let's see if we can get the UAD fans to override the bean-counters...........

Uh I think UA has a very good idea just how many out there are still using OS9! They see the downloads and i'm sure that played a HUGE part in the decision.

I realize how much of a financial hit you'll take if you upgrade to SX3, OSX etc. But you may want to start thinking of a plan of action to do it.
Things will only get worse.


TRACE

 

[MPC]

I think there's a lot involved in UA hanging onto OS9 support, not only do they have to code stuff for 9 (probably not a big deal), but they have to properly support and test for 9 as well, and that's NOT just counting beans; that can add up to lot of man-hours. UA is not some corporate megalith, they are a relatively small company, so decisions have to be made.

IMO I congratulate you for hanging onto OS 9 as long as you have, what is it, like 4 years since X has come out? UA is moving on, and if it wasn't now it would be in 6 months. You hung in there, but 4 years is a LIFETIME in terms of this technology. I loved DP in 9, X had me switching to another app for most of my work entirely. SX does work well in X, so at least that's a benefit.

 

[malhomme]

Oh well let us chime in then

I am just buying an UAD-1 that should be here in a couple of days...

I am using Cubase VST 5.1 under OS 9.2.2. And I'm buying the UAD just because it can run on OS 9.

And there is no way i'll go to OS X for music, since most of my stuff is 9 related (starting with my audio card that is a Creamware one).

Honestly I am quite risking it because I don't know if the Creamware card and the UAD will live happily together...

Hope so...

 

[Andykoot]

Wow youve just managed to bump a 7 year old operating system and a two year old thread!

I find every three years that I need to reinvest in my set up to keep abreast of developments. Yes that includes some incompatability with old songs and some financial outlay .but .. hey look at what we get for our buck compared with 10 or 15 years ago If you judge the expense by what your equipment is capable of there is no comparison.

Spend the money and go osx.....

Of course there is the option of the hardware versions of the LA2A and Pultec, they are fully os9 compatable...!?
And now where was that spare room for the plate reverb :wink:

 

[Trace]

OK this is what you could do. Buy another used G4! They are selliing for peanuts now and this way you could use one for OS9 stuff and the other for OSX stuff. I still have my original G4 and I plan on getting another one cuz they're so cheap and easy to upgrade. Powerlogix is coming out with new Processor upgrades for G4's and they are supposed to be pretty good. Where there is a will, there is a way.

TRACE

 

[malhomme]

MMm honestly, I am not too much of a \"even if it works, if it is outdated, go chaneg it\" kind of way of thinking.

I can not spend the money needed to go X on a musical point of view. I can't even afford a new cubase.

I mean, my old 99 sawtooth, augmented with a GD card still will run about 65 tracks and plenty of effects ans softsynth, more than I need.

And if it was unclear, I am not complaining (sure, one day I will, loosing some yet to come brilliant new plugs that won't run on 9, I guess), just stating I was joining the family, with a uad on OS9.

See my Creamware card is waayyyyyyy older, I still use their old v2 soft (it must be v4 now), because it is not broken, so I don't change it.

and I don't have to work a learning curve on a new machine. I switch mine on and make music.

Know what ? I doubt OS X will make my songs better.
And, I don't change my guitars each time a new one is out.