popps from my audient 880 into my apollo x6

[st33l]

When i trying vocals from an la-610 or guitar wich goes in to a axe fx3 and out to the 880 and then out from 880 into x6 through adat i get pops now and then. These pops get recorded in cubase when i record something. Its not about buffersize, i have a very powerful pc 13900k and the meter is about 20% all the time. Even without cubase (only windows) i get pops. When connecting the guitar directly from my axe fx3 into the x6 i hear no pops. The 880 should be a very good unit and it gives me more inputs in my studio so i would like to use it. But im very useless to understand these things and wounder here if someone can have a clue what more i should try. Attatching a photo of the units if that could be to any help.
Thanks St33l

 

[Joe Porto]

I see your Apollo is set to INT (internal) sync. Are you syncing the ASP-880 to Apollo via a BNC cable? If not, you have to set Apollo to EXT sync from ADAT input.

 

[st33l]

I see your Apollo is set to INT (internal) sync. Are you syncing the ASP-880 to Apollo via a BNC cable? If not, you have to set Apollo to EXT sync from ADAT input.

Ohh so this can be my problem? Thats great news for me. Thank you sooo much. I just went back home from my studio but i will try this tomorrow.

 

[Joe Porto]

Ohh so this can be my problem? Thats great news for me. Thank you sooo much. I just went back home from my studio but i will try this tomorrow.

Setting to Apollo to EXT ADAT is the easiest solution, but if you change your sample rate in DAW or Console, you'll have to manually change the sample rate on the ASP-880, which will then change Apollo's sample rate.

If you get a 75ohm BNC cable attached from ASP880 to Apollo, you can set ASP880 to sync to digital, leave Apollo as INTernal sync, and then your DAW or Console will dictate sample rate and all hardware will follow automatically.

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/BNC103--hosa-bnc-to-bnc-cable-3-foot

 

[st33l]

Setting to Apollo to EXT ADAT is the easiest solution, but if you change your sample rate in DAW or Console, you'll have to manually change the sample rate on the ASP-880, which will then change Apollo's sample rate.

If you get a 75ohm BNC cable attached from ASP880 to Apollo, you can set ASP880 to sync to digital, leave Apollo as INTernal sync, and then your DAW or Console will dictate sample rate and all hardware will follow automatically.

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/BNC103--hosa-bnc-to-bnc-cable-3-foot

Thankyou sooo much. This tip made the pops dissapear and now everything is fine. So very glad for your support Joe Porto.

 

[st33l]

Setting to Apollo to EXT ADAT is the easiest solution, but if you change your sample rate in DAW or Console, you'll have to manually change the sample rate on the ASP-880, which will then change Apollo's sample rate.

If you get a 75ohm BNC cable attached from ASP880 to Apollo, you can set ASP880 to sync to digital, leave Apollo as INTernal sync, and then your DAW or Console will dictate sample rate and all hardware will follow automatically.

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/BNC103--hosa-bnc-to-bnc-cable-3-foot

Can i ask you one more thing? As you mentioned about BNC cables i now started to think about that. If i want to connect my units through BNC cables, how should i connect them? I attatch a picture here so you can see my units. Its my apollo x6, and a behringer ada 8200 and a audient 008. Should i use both bnc connection from my soundcard with 2 bnc cables or do i need a splitter somewere in the chain? And wich units must be set to master or slave? and also how would i set it up in my uad console?
Thanks in advance /Micke

 

[Joe Porto]

Can i ask you one more thing? As you mentioned about BNC cables i now started to think about that. If i want to connect my units through BNC cables, how should i connect them? I attatch a picture here so you can see my units. Its my apollo x6, and a behringer ada 8200 and a audient 008. Should i use both bnc connection from my soundcard with 2 bnc cables or do i need a splitter somewere in the chain? And wich units must be set to master or slave? and also how would i set it up in my uad console?
Thanks in advance /Micke

You want the clock to come from a single source...in this case, the Apollo WC out. Use a 75 ohm BNC t-adapter to split from the Behringer to the Audient. Cable from Apollo WC out to T-adapter attached to Behringer, then cable from T-adapter to Audient.

Internal termination should be engaged on the Audient in the above scenario, as it is last in the WC chain.

T-adapter option:
https://www.sweetwater.com/c812--Ad...Qn6cdOpUOHpyr2hpyhxoCbdEQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

 

[st33l]

You want the clock to come from a single source...in this case, the Apollo WC out. Use a 75 ohm BNC t-adapter to split from the Behringer to the Audient. Cable from Apollo WC out to T-adapter attached to Behringer, then cable from T-adapter to Audient.

Internal termination should be engaged on the Audient in the above scenario, as it is last in the WC chain.

T-adapter option:
https://www.sweetwater.com/c812--Ad...Qn6cdOpUOHpyr2hpyhxoCbdEQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

A ton of thanks again

 

[st33l]

You want the clock to come from a single source...in this case, the Apollo WC out. Use a 75 ohm BNC t-adapter to split from the Behringer to the Audient. Cable from Apollo WC out to T-adapter attached to Behringer, then cable from T-adapter to Audient.


Hello Joe Porto again
I would like to ask you again if its ok, about thoughts i have with routing my gear. Now i have bought a summing unit (dangerous 2-bus+)
When it comes about routing my head is spinnig around like a wheel. As from now i just have an apollo x6 with outs so i know im limited to not beeing able to use everything from the 2-bus+ yet. But what i want to know here is IF its possible to use the send out of the audient asp 880 to connect it to the 2-bus+ through a db 25 cable so i can get more outputs? If so i just have to buy a db25 i guess or otherwise i guess i need one more apollo, right?

I send a picture of some of the gears from rearpanel here. 1. Apollo x6, 2. audient 880, 3. The 2-bus+, 4. presonus central station, 5. Behringer ada 8200.
the ada 8200 have outs but these ones is busy because it feeds an rane hc6 phoneamp for cues and that one is not included in the pictures.

I ask you cus you explained to me so well that even i could understand last time. And i dont want to buy unnecisery things just to try if it works, and then see that i maybe dont need it.
Have a great day
Micke

 

[Joe Porto]

Hello Joe Porto again
I would like to ask you again if its ok, about thoughts i have with routing my gear. Now i have bought a summing unit (dangerous 2-bus+)
When it comes about routing my head is spinnig around like a wheel. As from now i just have an apollo x6 with outs so i know im limited to not beeing able to use everything from the 2-bus+ yet. But what i want to know here is IF its possible to use the send out of the audient asp 880 to connect it to the 2-bus+ through a db 25 cable so i can get more outputs? If so i just have to buy a db25 i guess or otherwise i guess i need one more apollo, right?

I send a picture of some of the gears from rearpanel here. 1. Apollo x6, 2. audient 880, 3. The 2-bus+, 4. presonus central station, 5. Behringer ada 8200.
the ada 8200 have outs but these ones is busy because it feeds an rane hc6 phoneamp for cues and that one is not included in the pictures.

I ask you cus you explained to me so well that even i could understand last time. And i dont want to buy unnecisery things just to try if it works, and then see that i maybe dont need it.
Have a great day
Micke

There is no digital inputs on the ASP-880 and no D/A converter to send analog to your 2-bus+.

ASP-880 line outs come from the mic inputs. They are for using the ASP-880 as an analog mic>line level preamp or as insert points to place FX such as compression or EQ between the line outs and line ins, which would allow mic pres and FX to be sent to the digital outs. The line ins can alternatively be used as line level inputs to the ADAT outs, so you can alternate between the ASP-880 mic preamps and the line ins as the source via the front a/d switch.

The Apollo x6 has 6 line outs, 8 ADAT outs and 2 s/pidf outputs. Since you are already using the 8 ADAT outs to your HC6 via the 8200, you would either need to get a patch bay to reroute the 8200s to the 2-bus+ during mix down, or add another Apollo unit with more outputs.

 

[st33l]

There is no digital inputs on the ASP-880 and no D/A converter to send analog to your 2-bus+.

ASP-880 line outs come from the mic inputs. They are for using the ASP-880 as an analog mic>line level preamp or as insert points to place FX such as compression or EQ between the line outs and line ins, which would allow mic pres and FX to be sent to the digital outs. The line ins can alternatively be used as line level inputs to the ADAT outs, so you can alternate between the ASP-880 mic preamps and the line ins as the source via the front a/d switch.

The Apollo x6 has 6 line outs, 8 ADAT outs and 2 s/pidf outputs. Since you are already using the 8 ADAT outs to your HC6 via the 8200, you would either need to get a patch bay to reroute the 8200s to the 2-bus+ during mix down, or add another Apollo unit with more outputs.

Okay that make sense. Maybe i have to sell the 880 and buy another apollo i think. To get space in my rack and to get some money for the new purchase. Anyway thanks alot again for very valuable info Joe. Dont be surprise if i kontakt you again when i have the new gear
Very kind of you anyway
Thnks
Micke

 

[st33l]

There is no digital inputs on the ASP-880 and no D/A converter to send analog to your 2-bus+.

ASP-880 line outs come from the mic inputs. They are for using the ASP-880 as an analog mic>line level preamp or as insert points to place FX such as compression or EQ between the line outs and line ins, which would allow mic pres and FX to be sent to the digital outs. The line ins can alternatively be used as line level inputs to the ADAT outs, so you can alternate between the ASP-880 mic preamps and the line ins as the source via the front a/d switch.

The Apollo x6 has 6 line outs, 8 ADAT outs and 2 s/pidf outputs. Since you are already using the 8 ADAT outs to your HC6 via the 8200, you would either need to get a patch bay to reroute the 8200s to the 2-bus+ during mix down, or add another Apollo unit with more outputs.

With the risk of being nagging to you joe, ill try one more question of my expanding of outs to you. I have found a Ferrofish Pulse 16 for a good price.
If i use all my adats from the x6 and connect them to this Ferrofish Pulse 16 i would have 16 extra channels of in and outputs right?
Would i then be able to use the monitor L and monitor R +1-6 outs from the x6 to feed the ada 8200 wich goes to the rane hc6 for cues?
If so i would sell my audient asp 880 cus its not possible to include that one too with that setup? Am i thinking right here or is there anything im missing.
This sollution would make it a lot cheaper for me than buying another apollo

 

[Joe Porto]

With the risk of being nagging to you joe, ill try one more question of my expanding of outs to you. I have found a Ferrofish Pulse 16 for a good price.
If i use all my adats from the x6 and connect them to this Ferrofish Pulse 16 i would have 16 extra channels of in and outputs right?
Would i then be able to use the monitor L and monitor R +1-6 outs from the x6 to feed the ada 8200 wich goes to the rane hc6 for cues?
If so i would sell my audient asp 880 cus its not possible to include that one too with that setup? Am i thinking right here or is there anything im missing.
This sollution would make it a lot cheaper for me than buying another apollo

You could only utilize 8 of the Ferrofish I/O, as the x6 only has 8 ADAT I/O. The second ports are for SMUX capability, which allows you to operate at 96k (4 channels per port) or 192k (2 channels per port). At 48k, the second port is inactive.