Power Amp emulation for the UAFX Ox Stomp

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solarin

Member
Hi,

I use my Ox stomp with my UAFX pedals and my Friedman IRX, but I would like to use it with preamps like the Peace Hill FX SSS.
http://instagr.am/p/CyLRmjrS2IS/
Unfortunately, to sound really good the preamp still needs a power section, or an emulated power section. Would it possible to introduce power section
emulation in the UAFX Ox stomp? Other products like two notes Torpedo C.A.B. M+ have this option and it is really useful.

is this a feature that UAD is thinking about or it is completely of the cards?

Thanks!
 
Eric Dahlberg

Eric Dahlberg

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It's a good idea. I could see them doing it, given that they added cabinets to the last Ox Box firmware update. You should probably ask Drew where the best place would be to submit your idea.
 
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MaxTwang

Established Member
I would not expect anything that is not there on product release.

have you tried compression and EQ after your preamp petals and before OX to get you closer?
 
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solarin

Member
@MaxTwang, one last question if you can advice. From the UAFX catalog which compressor would be the best for this task, the 1176, the LA-2A or should I get the MAX Preamp & Dual Compressor?

Thanks!
 
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MaxTwang

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solarin said:
@MaxTwang, one last question if you can advice. From the UAFX catalog which compressor would be the best for this task, the 1176, the LA-2A or should I get the MAX Preamp & Dual Compressor?

Thanks!
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I would start with a compressor, plugin compressor or channel strip (with compression) that you already own. You're just looking to add a little compression to warm/fatten your preamp to simulate the compression of a tube power amp. Back in the days of big guitar racks a rack compressor was often used after a preamp.

I used to use either a DOD or DBX rack compressor in the loop of a Mesa/Boogie Mark II for better tone when I couldn't crank that amp. The DOD didn't do much when trying to get a guitar compressor effect in front of the amp, but it was magic in the effects loop of that Mark II.
 
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woodstovestudios

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It’s funny to see this post in that I have a Peace Hill SSS that I got used last year and it was noisy from the get-go. I just replace the two tubes and it’s quiet and working like a charm and I’m really hearing what I got it for. It’s very very good.
 
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solarin

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@MaxTwang thanks for the tips, really appreciate the help. Will follow them and try to use the compressor properly. It is a very versatile tool and I need to play with it.

@woodstovestudios nice to know in case that I have some noise problems. I will get mine in February or March, Koji is building one for me now.
 
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woodstovestudios

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solarin said:
@MaxTwang thanks for the tips, really appreciate the help. Will follow them and try to use the compressor properly. It is a very versatile tool and I need to play with it.

@woodstovestudios nice to know in case that I have some noise problems. I will get mine in February or March, Koji is building one for me now.
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Congratulations you’ll be very happy. I bought a really excellent dumble clone from Amplified Nation and sweated the choice between an overdrive reverb, and the steel string singer. I went with the ODR and it’s excellent but I loved the tone of the SSS. I got the Peace Hill hoping to capture it, but in retrospect, I now know it arrived with a faulty tube or two. It never sounded quite right and always had a noise problem. I had just sent off for two new tubes when I contacted Koji and he said that that was definitely the thing to do first. But he offered to fix it for me, for free, if the replacement tubes didn’t do the trick. That’s standing behind your work! And now that I hear what he’s done, he’s a master. Plugging it into the power amp of my ODR via the effects return I have a steel string singer as far as I’m concerned. Not only all the sparkling cleans. but that unique clean lead sound available cranking up the gain. And it is absolutely quiet as in make a record with it quiet.
 
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solarin

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@woodstovestudios, Congratulations on the Amplified Nation ODR, that has to be an awesome amp. Koji work looks amazing and all the reviews are really good. Happy to hear that he offered to fix the preamp. I decide for the SSS but I was in doubt, most likely I will get the ODR preamp next year.

I am going to run them through the power amp of my Soldano SLO 30, and also will try to run it directly to the Ox stomp pedal. This way:
http://instagr.am/p/CyUApqYy-1S/ but you can see that the cleans are not as good as passing them through the power amp, so I will simulate the power amp with a compressor as MaxTwang recommended. The drive sounds are more similar, maybe because drive creates compression.
 
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woodstovestudios

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Or….get an ox box. Its really a better solution than the stomp if you have the amp amp line out available as you do. I have the stomp but the ox has MUCH better control with its app and has digital output for recording.
 
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solarin

Member
I happen to have the ox box too, it is just that sometimes I play in other room and it is convenient to have the ox stomp + preamp. But I agree, the best sound is from the power amp and the ox box.
 
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jaeger28

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I think it would make sense, as the Ox Box takes speaker level and is always played with a poweramp, and the Ox Stomp is line level, so it's not usual that source signals will always include the power amp aspects of the tone.
 
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klong

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Imagine an Ox plugin that also had poweramp emulation. You could connect any amp's preamp (assuming it has FX loop send) directly to your DAW with no load box, or use any modeler's preamp or any of the hardware guitar preamps on the market.
 
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solarin

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I think it would make the ox stomp much more attractive. In fact they have the code to do that in the UAFX amp pedals.
 
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