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Preamp/converter question

hepo

Member
Hello,

two days ago I posted a question on something many should be able here to tell me, but with no feedback coming. I think that is because my post was way too long and my formulation was bad so that the actual question might have been drowned in it. Or the question was too simple to be taken serious - well, I am a newbie still in many ways, sorry. Please help me!

I am about to set up a small home project studio for my own stuff (voice/guitars/rest are VSTi), and later to take first steps into recording other musicians, and bands in their rehearsal rooms. PC based, Cubase SX 3, with UAD-1 cards, by now would choose Genelec 8040s for monitoring. The recording and mixing would take place in the \"work/office\" room in my apartment, some of the recording in band rehearsal rooms. Therefore I have a rather unprofessional acoustic environment, I myself have still lots to learn about music production, but I have a quite high budget available. I wonder how much I could spend reasonably on preamps and converters for this application.

The lower end for which I would go is something like the Mackie Onyx 400F, a Mackie mixer with FW card, one of the MotU FW interfaces or RME Fireface. The higher end would be a separate converter box, either from MotU (24 I/O, 2408MkIII or HD192), or even Apogee Rosetta 200 (2 channels I/O would be enough for my own things which is more important to me). In that case I would get a decent preamp for which there are countless choices. BUT - would I profit from going for the Apogee stuff, or is the quality of e.g. the Fireface absolutely ok for my application? Would I have an audible quality gain with my monitors and room, or does such gear only make sense in an acoustically decent studio room with the suitable monitors?
How good are the MotU converters by the way (and the pres in their FW interfaces)? Apogees reputation for sound quality seems to be beyond any doubt as far as I read everywhere.

Please, everybody who has a clue how far it is sensible to go for a project studio, drop me a line! I don't want to spend 1000+ Pound more on gear without being able to really profit from the higher quality. Thanks!

Oh - and sorry that this post is again so long...!
 

Holly

Active Member
Seems like you are in the lucky situation to spend a lot of money. :wink:
But I would spend it on other gear than an Apogee. Never tried one, but I think it doesn't make sense in a less than perfect studio. It will not make your office sound like a pro studio. The MOTU 828 works fine for me and will give you decent results. The built in pres are also ok, but nothing special. Maybe you should spend some money on an extra preamp to be more flexible and get more colour to your sound. Another great investment is a couple of different mics.

Holly
 

hepo

Member
Hi Holly, thanks for the reply. I posted this question also on the gearslutz forum and received nasically the same answer. So by now it looks like I will go for the Fireface 800 and add a decent 2 channel pre (atm thinking about the Neve Portico 5012). The FF800 simply looks great to me.

Well, now on to the next post with a microphone question... :)
 

MASSIVE Mastering

Active Member
You want huge return for your $$$? Get the room to sound good. I noticed you mentioned the Gennie's - That's a good start. Throw in some bucks for some low-end absorption also.

More important than anything else in your studio. Once you can hear everything accurately with good monitors in a well-tuned room, everything will change - You might end up temporarily being limited by your gear, but at least you'll be able to get the most out of it.
 

hepo

Member
Hi John, from what I always read in your posts here on the forum you are one of these guys where you better open both ears WIDE when they are saying something... well, regarding the room... you have hit a very vulnerable point here. I have a little knowledge about gear and about mixing, but about room acoustics as good as none - only that I understand more and more how important it is.
Well, I have two questions regarding this, but I rather put them in a new topic. Thanks anyway! ;)
 
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