Precision Multiband Mastering Compressor videos ?

[Dan Duskin]

Dan - ah, I think I see what you mean - unless the freq bands can be removed rather than simply deactivated then it can't do single band (or unless the freqs can be overlapped). Is that what you meant?

yup

 

[tkingen]

I was just playing around with the Sonitus MBL in Sonar4. You can slide the frequency crossovers anywhere you want and turn it into a single broadband compressor. It would be surprising if the PMB wasn't able to do that... unless it would compromise quality of the crossovers. Can't wait to find out :!:

 

[Dan Duskin]

I was just playing around with the Sonitus MBL in Sonar4. You can slide the frequency crossovers anywhere you want and turn it into a single broadband compressor. It would be surprising if the PMB wasn't able to do that... unless it would compromise quality of the crossovers. Can't wait to find out :!:

I hope you are right... but likely not. Pushing down to 0Hz and up to 22.05kHz (if you're at 44.1kHz) would mean you can push the other bands into being nothing. I'm afraid they probably didn't do that... but lets hope they did.

 

[Eurocide]

I was just playing around with the Sonitus MBL in Sonar4. You can slide the frequency crossovers anywhere you want and turn it into a single broadband compressor. It would be surprising if the PMB wasn't able to do that... unless it would compromise quality of the crossovers. Can't wait to find out :!:

I hope you are right... but likely not. Pushing down to 0Hz and up to 22.05kHz (if you're at 44.1kHz) would mean you can push the other bands into being nothing. I'm afraid they probably didn't do that... but lets hope they did.

I guess they've limited the bandwith like in Cambridge EQ for optimizing DSP power for each band. Why not use some code from earlier projects :wink: ? Every programmer does it.

 

[Horse]

...but...it's a multiband compressor.

Why not use any other compressor if you just want a single band?

 

[Eurocide]

...but...it's a multiband compressor.

Why not use any other compressor if you just want a single band?

Because of this "precision" thingy :wink:
Maybe more neutral than the other ones?
But the expander function can be useful, too.

 

[Dan Duskin]

I guess they've limited the bandwith like in Cambridge EQ for optimizing DSP power for each band. Why not use some code from earlier projects :wink: ? Every programmer does it.

Yeah... but, in this case i seriously doubt they copied cambridge code like that. But you are right about limiting the bandwidth... I bet that's the way they did it.

 

[Dan Duskin]

...but...it's a multiband compressor.

Why not use any other compressor if you just want a single band?

Lots of people are hoping they can use all of it's cool features (like gating, expansion, wet-dry mix, etc), and "assuming a semi-transparent sound for mastering" in a single-band context.

My bet is that they don't make it that universal. Instead I suspect they will later release a "precision compressor" (w/ a wet-dry mix function), and an professional gate/expander plugin.

 

[Trebor Flow 2]

Is it just me - I can't understand why UA who are obviously brilliant at modelling compressors havn't brought out a mix bus compressor like URS have just done.

I would love an SSL type mix bus compressor or a Joe Meek SC2 type device - used on the mix bus, reducing gain by a few db is a great way to mix and glue things together in a DAW and IMHO is more useful than a MBC for the home/project user.

Software like the TC MD3 is fantastic for a mastering house where you need to fix a stereo master and you can't get at the multitrack. But in a project studio situation where you can just go back to the mix if you have an issue then a MBC is redundant.

I now find a myself waiting to purchase the URS SSL emulation - where I would much rather have had a UAD solution but have to wait whilst they release some non essential mix tools - it really is frustrating for me.

Having said that I love the Dim D chorus to bits, so the old saying \"you can't please all of the people all of the time\" applies here.


Please, please UA do mix bus comp just for little 'ol' me.

Trebor

 

[Dan Duskin]

Is it just me - I can't understand why UA who are obviously brilliant at modelling compressors havn't brought out a mix bus compressor like URS have just done.

I would love an SSL type mix bus compressor...

That's exactly what I'm talking about. Something with VCA style response (instead of optics, tube, or fet response to the signal)... but with minimum color, designed for mastering and/or transparent compression. The SSL mix-bus compression is a standard-classic example. And since UA is all about modeling after analog gear, this would be a good choice... however, minimizing additional coloring, so it's perfect for mastering and transparent compression.

 

[tkingen]

Other than a snazzier GUI, what advantage would a multiband compressor have over the Voxengo Soniformer?

 

[Revelation]

In looking at the video, I was pretty impressed with the compressor. It did not knock me out, but it was good. Ok, I have the Waves Mastering plug ins and it includes a multi band compressor. It took me a while to learn it since unlike other compressors it has a range control which is a blue line that you can make thicker. This shows you how deep on each band it is effecting when compressor or expanding. I really enjoy this compressor because it is linear and does not add artifacts to the music.

I am not interested in another linear multiband compressor as I could use my money else where that would help my studio more. However the new UAD compressor has a great visual look and if you have experience with multiband compressors, you should be alright. If your not used to using one, you may get confused with how to use it, just as some had problems with the Fairchild.

The Per. compressor graphic screen in the middle reminds me of the Steinberg multiband compressor. That compressor as well as the UAD have the upside down U (like letter U) bands that you control. Both also have a more linear and classic sounds options to choose from with the classic adding a little color. If I did not have the Waves Mastering plug ins, I might be tempted in getting this UAD one. I would compare it compared to the Steinberg compressor.

Computer Music just had a dedicated issue on Cubase. In it they had a special section on mastering and explained how to use the Multiband compressor in Cubase. It had some insights that I never saw before. So I started using it and found it to be very helpful. It did not act the same as the Waves multiband compressor, but in some applications it did very well. Like the UAD you have the upside down U to work with on each band. The UAD seems to give you more control, but I cannot comment on it until it is out and can try it out. Remember a compressor just take signals up or down, and most add some character to the signal, some good, some bad. But it does look like a winner for those who know about mastering.

 

[lazlominimart]

Voxengo's Marquis compressor is already delivering SSL-like compression (in it's new T3 mode).

That's the one to beat ATM, IMHO.