pro tools le 7 with the uad-1

[DigitalPerformer]

Hi , Am about to switch from using Nuendo,Logic and Cubase to Pro tools Le 7 . Is there anyone using pro tools le 7 with the uad-1. do you have to sort out delay compensation manually or is it simple plugin and play like Cubase SX and Nuendo or do i need to understand delay value's? and does the vst to RTAS wrapper work properly.

G4 Dual 1.25,Motu 2408 mk2, Logic 6,Cubase SX 3,Nuendo 3, Digital Performer 4.6,Pro Tools Le 7,Reason 3,All steinberg VST Instruments, 2 Uad-1.Abelton Live 5.

 

[HotRats]

PT LE or PT HD?

 

[Razorfish]

Hi--PT 7 LE still doesn't offer automatic delay compensation , but the VST-RTAS wrapper does work well. You basically need to insert manual delay comp plug-ins on all of the tracks that don't have UAD plugs. I tend to group tracks at the mixing stage and then apply the UAD to the stems, rather than individual tracks. Mostly, I use the compressors and the pultec plugs. One thing--you need to manually compensate using distinct delay comp plugs for each pultec that you use.

Will

 

[Dan Duskin]

Hi , Am about to switch from using Nuendo,Logic and Cubase to Pro tools Le 7 .

Why would ANYONE do that ?
You're moving from a superior product to an inferior one...

 

[brunjic]

Why would ANYONE do that ?

Well, there is no AU version of SoundToys EchoBoy yet.

And you can have RTAS Trio A from SonyOxford for 661$.

Otherwise it is 1025$ for plugs and 699$ for PoCo Unplugged.

I am trying to fully migrate to Digital Performer but still find myself working in PT LE very often.

 

[HotRats]

Hi , Am about to switch from using Nuendo,Logic and Cubase to Pro tools Le 7 .

Why would ANYONE do that ?
You're moving from a superior product to an inferior one...

nice point of view

I've switched from Cubase SX to PT two years ago and I'm really happy.

talking about individual/musical needs,
superior and inferior are meaningless words.

 

[HotRats]

Hi , Am about to switch from using Nuendo,Logic and Cubase to Pro tools Le 7 . Is there anyone using pro tools le 7 with the uad-1. do you have to sort out delay compensation manually or is it simple plugin and play like Cubase SX and Nuendo or do i need to understand delay value's? and does the vst to RTAS wrapper work properly.

G4 Dual 1.25,Motu 2408 mk2, Logic 6,Cubase SX 3,Nuendo 3, Digital Performer 4.6,Pro Tools Le 7,Reason 3,All steinberg VST Instruments, 2 Uad-1.Abelton Live 5.

If you're talking about LE you have to manually compensate latency.
Manually compensation is a fast and easy process once you've understood
how it works.

the wrapper works good and Fxpanions is working on a brand new wrapper, optimized for PT7 and with a lot of new and interesting features.

p.s. the new PT7 is great.

 

[Dan Duskin]

Hi , Am about to switch from using Nuendo,Logic and Cubase to Pro tools Le 7 .

Why would ANYONE do that ?
You're moving from a superior product to an inferior one...

nice point of view

I've switched from Cubase SX to PT two years ago and I'm really happy.

talking about individual/musical needs,
superior and inferior are meaningless words.

You need less functionality and difficult usability? I can't think of one thing that would make this a good desicion.

 

[Fayth]

You need less functionality and difficult usability? I can't think of one thing that would make this a good desicion.

Oh no, not THAT discussion again....come on!! There are just 2 options:

1. You like Pro Tools
2. You don't

I personally love it. As long as you don't confuse Pro Tools LE with Pro Tools HD. But who gives a f*ck?

I think we all know Dan's opinion to be honest.
Now let's go back to the original question about PTLE and UAD-1.

 

[Tony Ostinato]

in the quest to \"make it big\" , which we know has a huge bit to do with luck, people will bow down to a lot of various gods. pro tools made the switch from digital application to religion awhile ago.

Some say we uad-1 devotees are guilty of same so who am i to argue?

i am always suprised they dont have pdc on le tho.....

 

[Fayth]

i am always suprised they dont have pdc on le tho.....

Me too.

 

[Dan Duskin]

Sorry... it's poor of me to say such things... just that I don't get it, I use tools, nuendo, sx, logic, and performer in several different studios... and everyone agrees that tools is a joke and that nuendo/sx is the best... except for a few who are very affected by what the 'market' tells them to think. None of them affect the sound, but tools certainly slows workflow down to 50% compared to better solutions... just because digi is good at marketing doesn't mean you have to belive them when they say they are 'pro'

I know, I know... I'm trying to get the last word in. I'm going to try not to say anything more...

 

[HotRats]

PT vs. Rest of the world or Rest of the world vs. PT
reminds me the boring and neverending war between
Mac and PC.

Dan...you write things that sounds like: \"hei men, wake up!
turn on your brain and leave protools\".

I hope you realize that there are different opinions out there...
and that words like \"everyone agrees that tools is a joke\"
are a little bit silly.

have a nice day, man.

 

[Fayth]

...a few who are very affected by what the 'market' tells them to think.

I totally agree...It is sad but true, but there are a lot of people out there who choose something because the market tells them to.

 

[DigitalPerformer]

Still No Close to Compensation

Thanks Guys , for your replies but am still no closer to sorting out delay compensation with pro tools and my UAD-1.
Is the anyone who can please explain how i manualy apply delay compensation and do i need to use the UAD-1 delay compensation plugin?

 

[max cooper]

[quote="Dan Duskin":3sg8caeu]

Hi , Am about to switch from using Nuendo,Logic and Cubase to Pro tools Le 7 .

Why would ANYONE do that ?
You're moving from a superior product to an inferior one...

nice point of view

I've switched from Cubase SX to PT two years ago and I'm really happy.

talking about individual/musical needs,
superior and inferior are meaningless words.

You need less functionality and difficult usability? I can't think of one thing that would make this a good desicion.[/quote:3sg8caeu]

I've been using PTLE and SX3. Whatever. Who cares? Write any good songs today? I did. (Yawn)

 

[zboy2854]

Everyone's experience is different. Mine was the opposite of Dan's. Tried to switch to Nuendo from PT, and while I loved the MIDI functionality, there were some glaring features missing that I had to have coming from PT, like playlists, tab to transient, draggable plugins between inserts, track show/hide list, dragging two unlinked mono files to a stereo audio track, etc. But to each his own. Like Max said, if it gets the job done, who cares what someone else uses? :?

 

[fredstarr]

And still you yo-yos haven't answered the poor guy's question.

In Cubase/Nuendo,etc. there is automatical delay compensation when using the UAD plugins, meaning you basically drop em in and go. In DP or PT you will notice that doing this causes the effected track to be 'out of sync' with the others. Uad-1 systems include a plug in called 'DelayComp', which is meant to be inserted on all tracks NOT using a UAD plug in. It pushes the track the appropriate amount of samples based on how many UAD1 plugs you are running overall.

Basically, If you use one UAD1 plug on a specific track, every other track needs to have that DelayComp plug in inserted with the Plugs set to '1'. If yiou add another plug on another track, remove the delaycomp on that track and then set the other delay comp 'Plugs' settings to 2 (for 2 plugins).

This could get hairywith lots of tracks, so do what one of the guys suggested earlier which is bus or group all tracks NOT using UAD plugins to a single Aux Input and then use just one delaycomp on that track.

The only place I find using the UADs problematic is with effects send s- i still get latency using the effects sends and haven't quite figured out how to use the UAD plugs on a send (as opposed to an insert).

HOpe this helps...
fred

 

[zboy2854]

And still you yo-yos haven't answered the poor guy's question.

Uhh, his original question was answered by Razorfish in the third post.

 

[Ray Sigmond]

FXpansion VST-RTAS will NOT work with Pro Tools 7. FXpansion will soon be releasing VST-RTAS2 which will support Pro Tools 7. If you purchased VST-RTAS after October 1, 2005 it will free for the upgrade, otherwise it will be $49.

\"The new version will NOT be compatible with PT-6.x. VST-RTAS 2.0 is PT-7.x specific, as Digidesign have completely reworked the RTAS API. There are new features - obviously, support for the new \"Instrument\" tracks, support for the new streamlined RTAS API, and a much improved wrapped plug-in manager + interface.\"

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