Resetting the start point for Flangers and Choruses etc?

[NuSkoolTone]

Hey there, does anyone know if there is a way to start the flanger/chorus modules (Like DM-1) at the zero point? I ask because I am working on a project that has a \"Jet flange\" in it, and I want the rise and fall to correspond with the song somewhat. Right now it's luck of the draw and it catches mid sweep when I activate the plug. Sometimes it's really good sometimes all wrong, but seldomly perfect.

Before you suggest it, this is the ONE tune that was NOT tracked to a click, so syncing it to tempo might not work. Unless I can use it to start, and then turn it off for the manual rate again in that split second.. hmm will have to try.

Any other sugestions?

 

[Eric Dahlberg]

Syncing the DM-1 will work if you set a tempo track. That's why Tony always pushed so hard to get actual sync.

 

[sj_digriz]

YAY!! a topic about using one of the plugins.

Unfortunately, you will need to use tempo sync. However, you have Nuendo so you can do a tempo map to the freeform track that will keep it in line. Although, I haven't done this with a flange, I've done it with echo, so I know in practice it can work. Not exactly simple though.

 

[saemskin]

isnt he asking how to reset the internal modulation of said effect at each \"trigger\" of the effect, not necessarily syncing it?

 

[sj_digriz]

Again, I have not done this with this particular plug, but I'm pretty sure if you turn the effect on while tempo synch is engaged it acts as a reset. You need to do this at each instance where you want the effect.

 

[NuSkoolTone]

Well I tried it and no luck. Turning the sync on and off HAS NO EFFECT on the start point of the plug. This bites!

I even went through the trouble to map a tempo track and SURE, it swirls in time, but not much different than the chosen rate I had set manually (I mean it DOES only last about 10 seconds as an \"effect\"). It is COMPLETELY unpredictable as far as where it will start in it's cycle. SO now I have to keep rendering the song until I get lucky.

I have a feeling there is really no workaround for this.

So here's to a feature request, resetable LFOs/Envelopes!

 

[saemskin]

does you daw have an on/off button for effects slots? automate it to kick on and off as you need it to.

 

[NuSkoolTone]

does you daw have an on/off button for effects slots? automate it to kick on and off as you need it to.

Yes it does. In fact, that is the preferred (at least to me) way to do it in Nuendo, because using bypass stil uses processing power on the card.

Unfotunately that doesn't work either. It just starts wherever it feels like in the cycle. As if the LFO's are constantly running no matter what.

Thanks for the suggestion though.

 

[egcc]

I haven't tried this, but in Nuendo you may need to create a midi track with a particular midi note to control the initialization of the effect rather than a tempo map track???

 

[NuSkoolTone]

I haven't tried this, but in Nuendo you may need to create a midi track with a particular midi note to control the initialization of the effect rather than a tempo map track???

I've never heard of this before, but if anyone knows I'd be willing to try it.

Any other ideas, or how to execute this one?

 

[Eric Dahlberg]

This answer occurred to me while I was at WMC, it's the old DJ trick of running two of the same records side-by-side to create the flange. I'm sure you can suss out how to do it yourself but let me know if some tips would help.

 

[NuSkoolTone]

This answer occurred to me while I was at WMC, it's the old DJ trick of running two of the same records side-by-side to create the flange. I'm sure you can suss out how to do it yourself but let me know if some tips would help.

Are you suggesting taking a snippet of the two track mix (or part) and putting it there slgihtly out of time with it? Wouldn't that just create phase?

I don't know the science behind it, but I remember in the old days "Flanging" was grabbing the flange of the tape reel and pulling on it (Or something like that) during the part of interest hence how "Flanging" got it's name.

 

[Eric Dahlberg]

With records, it's more about the signals being both out of time & out of pitch. Using a pitch shifting plug-in will only create a detuning effect so you'll need to use something that will both time stretch & pitch shift at the same time (such as by using time stretch in Wavelab & turning off 'preserve pitch'). You'll still need to knock the audio a few ms forward or back, too.