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bulls hit

Active Member
Anyone using Samplitude with their UAD-1 card?

There's a downloadable version available for $49 and I'm a cheap bastard and I'm wondering if this might be one way out of my Err=21 difficulties.

Anyone experience Err=21 with Samplitude?
 

hollybaba

Member
uad1 works great with samplitude here :lol:
v 8.3 pro but i think it works with all versions
i got 2 uad1 and m audio fw 1814 no prob
works even better than with nuendo 3.x
...
 

Straticus

Member
Samp Pro / UAD here. Never had an error message from using UAD and Samp together.

Can't say that for Waves. :roll:
 

bob humid

Active Member
bulls hit said:
Anyone using Samplitude with their UAD-1 card?

There's a downloadable version available for $49 and I'm a cheap bastard and I'm wondering if this might be one way out of my Err=21 difficulties.

Anyone experience Err=21 with Samplitude?
first of all:
samplitude / seqouia are the most underrated hosts in audio history while being the most complex ones. learning curve is high, but its really worth the effort

sam / seq are feature-beats and have excelent sounding engines. object-based editing / mixing which definietly IS the future for me.

i am using Samplitude 8.3 / Sequoia 8.3 and also do beta-testing for magix. running it with 2 x UAD-1s on a ECS K7S5A "Volks"-Motherboard

take care with the 49,- $ version . its really a fantastic price (48 audiochannells, unlimited midi + vst2) but DSP latency compensation will not happen in this version!

usally SAMPLITUDE has full latency compensation ´for CHANNEL, OBJECT, BUS & AUX.. works flawless... but only in the "big" versions...

give it a try and then update if necessary... its an awesome piece of software..

robert

http://www.samplitude.com/
The features of Samplitude 8 SE in detail:
- 48 tracks, 2 submix buses, 4 aux buses
- Consistent use of 32-bit floating point processing
- ASIO, MME, and WDM support
- Comprehensive realtime audio editor functions
- Unique object-oriented editing options
- Batch processing, flexible mixer with variable
signal flow
- ReWire, DirectX and VST plugin support
- Automatic latency compensation for Samplitude
effects
- VSTi support incl. 8 separate outputs
- MIDI recording & editing
- Supports up to 8 I/Os (24-bit/96 kHz)
- Mixer automation (vol. pan), 5x undo/redo
- High-quality effects: Normalize, 4-band parametric
EQ, Stereo Enhancer, Amp Simulation, Vocoder,
Dehisser, Timestretching/Pitchshifting, Panorama,
Dynamics (Compressor, Expander, Noise Gate,
Limiter), Reverb, Delay, Resampling, Declipping,
Distortion, Noise Reduction, Phase Invert

By upgrading to Samplitude classic (€299) you also get:
- Unlimited physical inputs/outputs
- 64 audio tracks
- Latency compensation for external effects as well
- Freely configurable mixer view
- Up to 8 internal VST/DirectX effects
- Up to 8 effect sends/64 effect returns
- Up to 8 submix buses
- Folder tracks
- Track & object freeze
- FFT, multi-band stereo Enhancer, real-time
normalization, multi-band dynamics
- Vintage Effects Suite Pro
- Convolution reverb as offline effect/stereo
incl. 200 MB impulse responses
- Sound Cloner
- Asymmetrical crossfades
- Advanced timestretching /pitchshifting modes
- Track speed
- Max. 32-bit/384 kHz audio resolution
- POW-r dithering
- Unlimited analysis tools
- Drum Editor for MIDI Editing
- Synchronization: MIDI clock, MTC, SMPTE,
Chase Lock
- Shortcut Editor
- Practical and unlimited undo/redo incl. undo history
- Project Browser
- Take Manager
- Take Composer
- DAT marker support
- Marker Manager
- Root Projects
- Strip Silence
- Unlimited Hardware Controller Support
- Red Book CD Authoring
- DVD-Audio Authoring
- Burn projects and backups onto CD/DVD
- Export broadcast wave (incl. BWF Timestamp),
MPEG 1 Audio Layer II, MP3

By upgrading to Samplitude professional (€599) you get, in addition to the functions mentioned above:
- 999 audio tracks
- Unlimited VSTi single outputs
- Up to 64 internal VST/DirectX effects
- Up to 64 effect sends/64 effect returns
- Up to 64 submix buses
- MAGIX Analog Modelling Suite
- Realtime convolution reverb
- 5.1 Surround
- Object-based surround panning
- MAGIX Elastic Audio
- MAGIX Robota Pro
 

Straticus

Member
Regarding the $48 Samp. AFAIK, it's only 16bit. But I could be wrong about that. You might want to check into that if it matters to you.

BC
 

robi

Member
Straticus said:
Regarding the $48 Samp. AFAIK, it's only 16bit. But I could be wrong about that. You might want to check into that if it matters to you.

BC

No, it's restricted up to 24bit/96khz.

I have Sam8 Pro and the SE Version, that came free of charge with the keys magazine. Maybe you can get the last issue from anywhere?
 

hollybaba

Member
I ve been steiny fo years more than 10
but the first time i ve heard sam i was like whooo the sound is
deep very analogish....
I now use sam as main seq for audio to rewire live fo midi and sampling stuff and it s ten years ahead from nuendo or sx...
all the fx in sam are better than in sx or nuendo
even live is very handy when writting songs or remixing
:lol:
 

bulls hit

Active Member
bob humid said:
take care with the 49,- $ version . its really a fantastic price (48 audiochannells, unlimited midi + vst2) but DSP latency compensation will not happen in this version!

usally SAMPLITUDE has full latency compensation ´for CHANNEL, OBJECT, BUS & AUX.. works flawless... but only in the "big" versions...
Thanks for the heads up on the DC Bob.
The demo contains an amazing feature set for the price. Trouble is it's hard getting a real feel for the s/w in demo mode - I get spurous errors like it will only play in 16-bit & only record 1 track at a time. Not sure if this is my setup or just the demo acting up
 

dt

Member
It may be your setup, or audio card - not necessarily UAD-1 (unless it is motherboard/PCI buss related). UAD-1s are running great here with Sequoia 8.3. The 8.11 demo also ran fine with my system (RME Digiface, UAD-1s, AMD X2, Asus A8Vdeluxe).

IMHO, Samplitude is worth sorting out your system to see what isn't working. I've been a Nuendo user for a while, but am loving Sequoia - better low latency performance than Nuendo. The workflow and capabilities for recording, editing, mixing and mastering (among other things) are superb.
 

dt

Member
I've run UAD plugins at 64 samples, both RME/ASIO and VIP buffers, but I have been running projects at 1024 or 2048 VIP and 64 samples for RME.

I haven't run any load tests with UAD-1 plugins yet to see where the threshold is for VIP buffers with two cards loaded, but will try to this week.
 

bob humid

Active Member
bulls hit said:
[quote="bob humid":2x5m0vaj]

take care with the 49,- $ version . its really a fantastic price (48 audiochannells, unlimited midi + vst2) but DSP latency compensation will not happen in this version!

usally SAMPLITUDE has full latency compensation ´for CHANNEL, OBJECT, BUS & AUX.. works flawless... but only in the "big" versions...
Thanks for the heads up on the DC Bob.
The demo contains an amazing feature set for the price. Trouble is it's hard getting a real feel for the s/w in demo mode - I get spurous errors like it will only play in 16-bit & only record 1 track at a time. Not sure if this is my setup or just the demo acting up[/quote:2x5m0vaj]

its definetly your setup. i can run Samplitude SE on my business-notebook Thinkpad T22, 900MHz with "ASIO for all" on a crappy old crystal audio-DA.. very stable!

i don´t know about multiple record-functionality in SE..

are you running ASIO drivers? its a must..

robert
 

Cass Anawaty

Shareholder
Thanks for the replies.

I'm still getting audible delays among tracks--is there something within the program or the UAD-1 that I'm supposed to \"check\"?

For example, using ASIO w/ Lynx, with VIP buffers @ 1024, 2048, etc.--there's always latency.

With 2 pultecs on two tracks, they sync together, but the vocal track (which has no UAD-1 plugs) starts \"early\".

I must be missing something--anyone?
Thanks,
CAA
 

bob humid

Active Member
Cass Anawaty said:
Thanks for the replies.

I'm still getting audible delays among tracks--is there something within the program or the UAD-1 that I'm supposed to "check"?

For example, using ASIO w/ Lynx, with VIP buffers @ 1024, 2048, etc.--there's always latency.

With 2 pultecs on two tracks, they sync together, but the vocal track (which has no UAD-1 plugs) starts "early".

I must be missing something--anyone?
Thanks,
CAA
you running the Samplitude SE or the full featured 8.X versions?

SE has NO latency-correction for "external" VST (all VST-plugs that are not part of Samplitude)..

robert
 

Cass Anawaty

Shareholder
I did figure out what the problem was--Cakewalk's VST wrapper.

Yes, I know that I should have just used the VST versions instead of the \"wrapped\" ones, but I was in a hurry and instead of moving the folder to the proper place, I just grabbed them from the Direct X files.

Luckily, I figured it out. Just hope that the CD I just finished mixing doesn't come back--all the projects are corrupt now.

Ah well, live 'n learn. Would probably just tell them I need to remix w/ the 1073 :lol:
 
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