sidechain for the compressors (again)

[cowudders]

Hi,

It's so depressing for me. No way to use the compressors with an external key-input. I really consider this essential for a dynamic processor.

Everybody who'd also like this included, please write to UA.
you could mail to:
pcsupport@uaudio.com
or
macsupport@uaudio.com

thanks!!

cheers,
bernd

 

[aevan]

Hi, have you ever used a sidechain on a hardware 1176 or LA2A? I can't seem to find them on my real ones. Got one on my symetrix 501 though.
Maybe UA could model that one.

 

[baronluigi]

yawn

 

[polygen]

\"yawn\"? very supportive and helpfull reply.....

i think it's a very valid request to ask for sidechain access, even if the originals don't have sidechain access; you couldn't save or automate the originals either, nor were they stereo

bernd you can sort of get sidechain access by inserting a compressor on a bus, routing your signal to be compressed to one channel, the sidechain signal to the other, then only listen to the first channel; this won't completely replace the sidechain signal with your external signal, but for some applications it's close enough.

 

[jcat]

Aren't there some 1176's moded use sidechain input?

I think we're also still waiting for Steinberg to release the next VST spec which includes proper sidechaining support, even though you can use other methods to include it as a plugin feature.



Cheers,

jcat

 

[aevan]

Jcat you're right...there were some 1176 modded at the old universal factory to have a sidechain input. The ones I've seen (photos only) had an ugly 1/4 inch socket in the middle of the front faceplate.
The group thing is one way, but you only get mono in the end. Doesn't help for ducking stereo tracks. The sidekick plugin link supplied by Tony ostinato is not bad for ducking and doesnt seem to impart color to the signal. Maybe you could put it over the output of the UA plug you are using, although you'd have to be wary of double compressing stuff. I would suggest setting the UA plug to minimal compression, just to give color, then do the ducking with the sidekick. Not a solution, just an idea.

 

[polygen]

it would be better if ua just listened to the repeated requests for sidechain access. can't be too hard to implement...au can do it, and i'm sure there were vst plugins with sidechain input even in the mac os 9 days....

 

[brainray]

I second this wish. Sidechaining an essential feature. Probably the 1176 SE would be a good candidate for it, since it's not so important that everything is 'original'.

Better sooner than later.

Are there any good VST sidechainable compressors out there anyway?

Best

Ray

 

[Tony Ostinato]

my stock answer is that its a host issue and we are waiting for the next vst specification.


but even I am getting tired of waiting.

 

[olafmol]

my stock answer is that its a host issue and we are waiting for the next vst specification.


but even I am getting tired of waiting.

i can do sidechaining in all kinds of hosts with voxengo or kjarhus compressor plugins..

Olaf

 

[brainray]

Aha. I used to be on Mac/Logic for years, thats why I'm not aware of this problem, so forgive me.

But there is for example this VST Vanilla compressor that has a sidechain input. So there must be a way to do do it? Also I remember that on VST (OS 9) with Pluggo you could create busses and send than around as trigger for a compressor.

Also you can use Reaktor to sidechain (http://uc.panicnow.net/~cbong/sccomptute/)

So what does the VST standard lack? All you need is an additional key input to trigger the compressor. Reaktor and Vanilla can do it, whats the technical reason for UA not to do it?.

Thanks for listening

Ray

 

[rdolmat]

my stock answer is that its a host issue and we are waiting for the next vst specification.


but even I am getting tired of waiting.

But the dB audioware plugs got around that issue. I bought the dynamics plugin simply because it supports up to 8 separate sidechain feeds.

 

[brainray]

i can do sidechaining in all kinds of hosts with voxengo or kjarhus compressor plugins..

Olaf

Thanks for the hint, just got the Voxengo Cruchessor working

Anyway, how long will we have to ait until we see the Neve?

Ray

 

[Guest]

probably will not see the neve until june. BTW i would love to see sidechaining for the 1176SE!

 

[pipelineaudio73]

Hi, have you ever used a sidechain on a hardware 1176 or LA2A? I can't seem to find them on my real ones. Got one on my symetrix 501 though.
Maybe UA could model that one.

Until the recent rash of re-issues, I had never seen a UREI or Teletronix compressor without a sidechain input

 

[cowudders]

bernd you can sort of get sidechain access by inserting a compressor on a bus, routing your signal to be compressed to one channel, the sidechain signal to the other, then only listen to the first channel; this won't completely replace the sidechain signal with your external signal, but for some applications it's close enough.

hi, yes I even made a stereo version this way. completely nutty routing in Logic and sounds nice, but it's not the same as a 'real' sidechain. I did it with two fairchilds, btw.

cheers,
bernd

 

[sensorychaos]

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