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so...nothing at the Messe after all!
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secretworld
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or news 
A Gruesome Discovery
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Posted on another forum: no news at Messe, they at UA just said they're working on it. The poster, which went to the booth, said that he feels it will be something PCIe related, not Firewire. But at this point the truth is: there are still no facts to talk about, so let's see in the next months.
A Gruesome Discovery
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See, the original post last month, where some random guy started this whole rumor, kicked off with this bit of dubious information:
Checking the official Musikmesse site, it turns out that this is actually Apogee's booth.... very well, stuff gets changed at the last minute, right? So what is UA's booth? Well, going by the site, it seems Universal Audio isn't even listed as an exhibitor. So before the speculation starts as to why UA didn't announce anything, can anyone confirm that UA is even involved in this show in any way whatsoever?
petersueco
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Hi, I've just returned to Spain from Frankfurt and UADs booth was on Halle 8. They had the new Neve 1073 Classic Console Equalizer running in a Protools session, but I hadn't time to listen to it. The guy at the set told me it's 2 week more untill it will be released. It is a very CPU hungry plug: 6 mono and 4 stereo instances per card @44.1 Khz. The price range will be $200 to $250.
This are the latest news from the Messe @ Frankfurt.
Peter Holmquist
This are the latest news from the Messe @ Frankfurt.
Peter Holmquist
Dan Duskin
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that would be the most retarted thing ua ever did...xist2005 said:
baronluigi
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petersueco are you saying UAD is going to release the NEVE 1073 EQ in 2 weeks?
That I highly doubt, but would love to see! (although I think it will be tough to beat the RE-201, that thing is just amazing)
That I highly doubt, but would love to see! (although I think it will be tough to beat the RE-201, that thing is just amazing)
billybk1
Shareholder
baronluigi said:
I doubt it very much too. That would be out of character for UA. Over the last couple of years they've stayed on a rather steady 10-14 week product cycle for plugin release's. I would not expect to see the NEVE 1073 EQ, until the latter part, of May or early June. Of course, I would not complain, if they released earlier than that.
baronluigi
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Neve 1073 in May or June? I thought it was more like a year out...like the space echo took a long time , why would Neve be any different with all the corp board meetings and all (just guessing, who knows)
Beginning competition with SSL
I think, that after the SSL announcement of 'DUENDE', UA got some problems.
After seeing the new SSL product at the Musikmesse (see the press release at: http://www.proaudio.de/news/beitraege/2006_03-29.html )
I'm really re-thinking the addition of another UAD-1 - which I was just going to order.
Wondering about the SSL/Waves cooperation - or is it now again a 'coopetition' ?
br
Gerhard
I think, that after the SSL announcement of 'DUENDE', UA got some problems.
After seeing the new SSL product at the Musikmesse (see the press release at: http://www.proaudio.de/news/beitraege/2006_03-29.html )
I'm really re-thinking the addition of another UAD-1 - which I was just going to order.
Wondering about the SSL/Waves cooperation - or is it now again a 'coopetition' ?
br
Gerhard
Well, if the Neve story is correct, it's another fact that shows the current \"un-balancing\" of UAD card vs UAD plugins.
Just to virtually compare, with Waves SSL, or the future Duende SSL, or URS, or similar stuff, you can easily run 20/30 istances at the same time on a good system (and some of them are native, so no latency or almost nothing).
If you want similar results with UA at this point the only thing you could do is having a Magma and put 4 cards in (and even then, probably using freeze if you want to run stuff also some RE-201, EMT, etc.) = lot of money, noise added to your setup (because of the chassis), more complicated setup.
I'm sure UA will release a much more powerful card/solution soon, but if it's a PCIe only, I won't sell my G5 for that, yet.
Just to virtually compare, with Waves SSL, or the future Duende SSL, or URS, or similar stuff, you can easily run 20/30 istances at the same time on a good system (and some of them are native, so no latency or almost nothing).
If you want similar results with UA at this point the only thing you could do is having a Magma and put 4 cards in (and even then, probably using freeze if you want to run stuff also some RE-201, EMT, etc.) = lot of money, noise added to your setup (because of the chassis), more complicated setup.
I'm sure UA will release a much more powerful card/solution soon, but if it's a PCIe only, I won't sell my G5 for that, yet.
Paul Woodlock
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How do you know it's bloat?
Maybe the only way to emulate with decent accuracy was to use that amount of DSP?
Maybe the newtrend in higher DSP usage is paving the way for a new higher powered UAD-2 that'll run them easily?
Paul
Maybe the only way to emulate with decent accuracy was to use that amount of DSP?
Maybe the newtrend in higher DSP usage is paving the way for a new higher powered UAD-2 that'll run them easily?
Paul
Eric Dahlberg
Purveyor of musical dreams fullfilled.
You missed the thread where members of this forum requested for UA use as much DSP as possible to get it right. This is probably a bit higher than anyone was anticipating, though.guitarz said:
I'm almost sure Paul is right. New cards, whenever they come out, will be of course more powerful, and they will run more istances of the latest heavy plugs (let's say from Fairchild to the future Neve).
The \"old\" users will have to make a compromise, as I was saying: less istances (and mostly with the \"classic\" Uad plugs) /magma/freeze, etc.
Some will find this acceptable until they get a new daw and new cards, some will upgrade as soon as the new cards are released. Lucky them.
The \"old\" users will have to make a compromise, as I was saying: less istances (and mostly with the \"classic\" Uad plugs) /magma/freeze, etc.
Some will find this acceptable until they get a new daw and new cards, some will upgrade as soon as the new cards are released. Lucky them.
no worries about 4 instances per card....i prefer \"better algos\" to \"more instances\" any time (but then again i've got 4 cards). The best sounding records usually don't have many elements going on at the same time anyway, so....
i actually saw the 1073 running at the AMS NEVE booth...one with a black front plate and one in the blue/grey/whateverish original 1073 color.
i actually saw the 1073 running at the AMS NEVE booth...one with a black front plate and one in the blue/grey/whateverish original 1073 color.
Do you know what?
I think it's bloomin marvellous that UAD finally has some competition to put the willies up em a bit.
Being a sonar user who sold his UAD due to the ERR-21 problem I personally am gagging for UAD to release something more powerful and more compatible with sonar.
I'd rather it be firewire also.
Kind regards
Dave Rich.
I think it's bloomin marvellous that UAD finally has some competition to put the willies up em a bit.
Being a sonar user who sold his UAD due to the ERR-21 problem I personally am gagging for UAD to release something more powerful and more compatible with sonar.
I'd rather it be firewire also.
Kind regards
Dave Rich.
billybk1
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I don't know about firewire, but it seems like UA has confimed a PCIe version, is indeed, in the offering:daverich said:
Will UA ever release a PCIe version of the UAD-1 and if so when?
UA is committed to supporting the PCIe platform on Mac and PC and while you will definitely see PCIe products from UA in the future, we have no specific product announcements at this time.
Taken from this months, just released, April 2006 WebZine:
http://www.uaudio.com/webzine/2006/april/index3.html