Space Echo Sounds Good

[baronluigi]

Sixela

What are you saying you can afford $200 but not $250? That's wierd economics. and BTW use the coupon for being a loyal customer and you can get it for less than $250.


At any rate it rivals both of my hardware tape delays that I paid over $1000 each, plus $35-40 each for tape that lasts about 2 months, then tape head cleaner, demagnizer,pinch roll cleaner, slap in a set of nice telefunken nos tubes (another $1000) or genalex tubes ($$$ god only knows). All in all it probably costs me more that $250 a year to use my hardware delay's.

I am diggin my RE-201 plugin.............

 

[baronluigi]

One last thing, I wish you (and you know which ones you are) would quit your bitchen. UA has demonstrated over and over a loyalty for their loyal customer base.


Would you rather they didn't?

 

[polygen]

it is not a bad example, indeed. i think that a lot of people bought secind, third or fourth cards because they thought \"hey, these guys make killer plugins, typically at 149,- , so it's not that much of a problem that i have to buy these cards, because these guys will keep me sorted out\". well, bought the cards, policy changed......
in a way you invest into the uad *platform* too, and to be honest i think that that should count something too in the pricing. i don't think this is overly \"greedy\" or similar of UA, not at all....but should the pricing stick at this new level it would definitely be a disappointment.
i myself am going to buy the re201, as i have used it on a production im working on, so for the sake of total recall i need it (damn that fully-functional demo ), but still, the 250 (as opposed to the bundle pricing) don't feel right. i absolutely believe that quality stuff has it's price (that's why i buy manley, lexicon and whatnot), but if you factor in the investment into the cards, the limitations that result from having the cards (i needed a magma for them to work correctly with my RME card, i went for a PCI-only G5 because of the cards etc) the deal suddenly doesn't look so phantastic anymore.

 

[billybk1]

One last thing, I wish you (and you know which ones you are) would quit your bitchen. UA has demonstrated over and over a loyalty for their loyal customer base.

Exactly, I like how they (and they know who they are) just hijacked your thread to go off on their own little self proclaimed tangent. UA gave us all a money saving gift, with the Roland Classic FX bundle. Which is essentially a 20% discount, on all the Roland plugins.

Total cost after the 20% discount per plugin:

RE-201 $200
Dimension D $120
CE-1 $79

If you don't want to take advantage, of the price break, so be it. No need to be so ungrateful about it though. Since I had already purchased the Dimension D ($149), I'll use my earned $98 UA coupon (thanks UA :wink: ) and get both the Space Echo and the CE-1 for $250. Wow, 2 for 1, I like that deal!

 

[Paul Woodlock]

Look this debate is not about "the quality of UA modelling" maybe it's great or maybe it's just good enough - it's not the point.

For those that think the pricing of the RE-201 is correct - good for you - hurray.

But as a point of principal - I can completely understand the point of view of those who think it is over priced. As I say I can afford the RE-201 - but it's not cheap at $249. It's not a "no brainer"

UA will have to do their maths - they will have to see which plugins haven't sold as well as they had hoped and maybe they will start to have some specials in the future. YOU don't know that won't happen. If it does then market forces will have made UA think we'd rather sell 5000 instances at $99 than 1000 at $249 - YOU don't know thier maths - YOU don't know what's selling and what isn't.

Well neither do you.

The people who can't afford something, when there's enough of them, have as much power as those that can, when there's only a few of them.

It really get's on my tits, when the only reply of the "so called pros" on this forum is to say "oh come on blah blah blah bloody blah - just pay the money these plugins are a bargain at twice the price" well if they are too YOU - lucky you.

To those that can't afford them - keep pissing and moaning and email UA to let them know and in the mean time keep saving your hard earned cash and spend it wisely on things that are valuable to YOU.



Trebor

I'm assuming your answering my post ( apologies if you weren't ).

This whole thread is such a pointless argument. it's no different from...

"I think Dance music is Crap!" versus "I think dance music is great" versus "I think dance music is just OK but nothing special!"

Really it's all a bunch of subjective opinions. None of which are superior to any other. And that's why I haven't really got involved in this thread. Although reading it has been a little entertaining because of the contention that's been going on between various peeps. ( I always like a good forum scrap )

Look.... all I did was comment in this thread in support of Tony's comments about comparing the RE-201 to a regular Digital Delay plug.

And let's face it *some* the arguments for it's pricing *have* stemmed from a comparison to such. Which IMHO is WRONG.

And I certainly haven't told everyone to go out and buy it becuase it's cheap at twice the price.

If it get's on your ti[]i[/i]ts that I have an opinion then I'm not offended. It's your ti[]i[/i]ts that are incurring the negativity.

But I'm certainly not gonna waste time getting ivloved in a pointless argument that only seems to be fuelled by peep's personal stress, that probably stems from causes not even remotely related to the damn plugin.

I haven't got laid in a while either, but I ain't gonna take it out on the price of a plug

peace to everyone!!


Paul

 

[Sixela]

your bitchen.

Sadly this remains your (and you know which ones you are) sole argument.

 

[Trebor Flow 2]

Damn my OCD

Look this debate is not about "the quality of UA modelling" maybe it's great or maybe it's just good enough - it's not the point.

For those that think the pricing of the RE-201 is correct - good for you - hurray.

But as a point of principal - I can completely understand the point of view of those who think it is over priced. As I say I can afford the RE-201 - but it's not cheap at $249. It's not a "no brainer"

UA will have to do their maths - they will have to see which plugins haven't sold as well as they had hoped and maybe they will start to have some specials in the future. YOU don't know that won't happen. If it does then market forces will have made UA think we'd rather sell 5000 instances at $99 than 1000 at $249 - YOU don't know thier maths - YOU don't know what's selling and what isn't.


Well neither do you.

No true. But reading these threads I'm certainly building up a picture.

Trebor

 

[pedro trotz]

... CE-1 wasn't "just a chorus", DD wasn't "just a chorus" and PMB wasn't "just a MB" and given the same "figuring out" period you guys will learn space echo isnt "just a delay" and that you need to get more than "just a clue".

We (all) know how a 201 sounds. We know its not "just a delay"... What difference does it make? The price is still the same.

 

[acidrock]

This thread is funny.

I can't understand what the big deal is,try the demo and if you don't think it's worth it,don't buy it.

 

[Tony Ostinato]

\"What difference does it make?\"

physics, remember the class you failed in hs/college?

they didnt fail.

 

[Akis]

OK, I think all sides have made their points clear and it's about time you all stopped bitchin'. There's a poll runnin' about this matter in this forum, cast your vote there.-