Stereo ABY pedal recommendation for use with Ruby + Dream Live Setup?

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musicsoma

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Hi all,

I'm new here but looking to set up a new pedalboard for live use. No amps, so the Ruby and Dream will be running direct into the house. Is there a solid Stereo ABY pedal switcher out there anyone is using? I have my guitar line going into my delays and reverb in stereo ready to hit these two, but I'd like to be able to run either or both Ruby and Dream at the same time in stereo into the house.
 
Vondragonnoggin

Vondragonnoggin

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I don’t have more than one UAFX pedal, but I have a pedalboard I use with several tube preamps and use an EHX Tri-Parallel Mixer to switch between the preamps. It allows switching between the three inputs with or without auto-off on the other two loops so you can step on switch one for loop one, then step on switch two for loop 2 and either combine it or shut off loop one. Three loops in all. The controls for each loop are send level, return level, an EQ knob to sweep from lo to hi, and a phase knob in case you need to flip the phase of the loop. Overall pedal has an output and a dry signal knob so you can blend in the effects (although with preamps or AIAB pedals, you probably want it full on the effect mix). I run tube preamps with Marshall and Mesa circuits (JCM800 and Recto preamps in loop one because they both have true bypass on a switch), and Jubilee in loop 2, JMP in loop 3. I have had to flip phase when blending a couple like the Jubilee and JMP. It’s a handy feature for blending preamps and I would imagine it would work well for a couple UAFX pedals and maybe put another effect in the 3rd loop you could blend in, or run a boost in loop 1, Dream in loop 2, and Woodrow in loop 3 and blend in the boost somehow or get the Lion 68 for the 3rd loop.

I just have my Lion 68, but it would be my choice for a setup with several UAFX. I’m just waiting on a high gain UAFX pedal (hopefully a Mesa Boogie pedal with Mark amps and Dual Rec) to come out.

Not stereo on the patching on the EHX Tri-Parallel Mixer though. It would limit you to mono signals.

Here is the EHX page for the product - https://www.ehx.com/products/tri-parallel-mixer/
 
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musicsoma

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Thank you for the suggestion. That would work for mono, but I’m wondering if there is a stereo alternative.
 
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Ron76

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If you want to run both in stereo and parallel, you need to use a splitter (Lehle P-Split III or similar) to feed multiple inputs and a mixer at the end to sum them to a stereo out.

If mono is sufficient and you can live without running them parallel, here's some interesting ways of connecting multiple UAFX pedals with the 4-cable-method (or more) without additional switches: https://help.uaudio.com/hc/en-us/ar...X-Control-Manual#h_01G3VKRPKVCVWB6KNV5CW9B96F
Basically, you can switch between different sounds just using one pedal switch.
 
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MC808

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Hey, if I could just ask a newbie question here: new owner of a dream and I'm thinking of a small board set up of the dream, ruby and OX stomp. My idea is to have the character of both amps to choose from and the mastering of the OX. The max input and output of the dream and ruby are balanced at 12.1dbu so my question: can I run the Ruby directly into the dream and bypass the dream when I want to use the Ruby for example? The ruby would then be bypassed when using the dream. I'm not really interested in dual amp set up more a "two channel" type rig. Make sense? Thanks in advance
 
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Ron76

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MC808 said:
Hey, if I could just ask a newbie question here: new owner of a dream and I'm thinking of a small board set up of the dream, ruby and OX stomp. My idea is to have the character of both amps to choose from and the mastering of the OX. The max input and output of the dream and ruby are balanced at 12.1dbu so my question: can I run the Ruby directly into the dream and bypass the dream when I want to use the Ruby for example? The ruby would then be bypassed when using the dream. I'm not really interested in dual amp set up more a "two channel" type rig. Make sense? Thanks in advance
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Yes, no problem at all. You can run stereo cables from one pedal to another and just have them bypassed if not needed. But it is not possible to switch OX Stomp presets accordingly - maybe in the future.
 
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MC808

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Ron76 said:
Ye

Yes, no problem at all. You can run stereo cables from one pedal to another and just have them bypassed if not needed. But it is not possible to switch OX Stomp presets accordingly - maybe in the future.
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Thank you! Could you explain what you mean by the OX presets? I was thinking I'd just use the rig knob with 1-3 being dream rigs and 4-6 Ruby rigs.
 
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Ron76

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If you turn off Ruby and want to use Dream, it could be that you want to activate different (matching) cabinets in OX Stomp as well. You can program your rig presets to OX Stomp's 2 buttons or just use the dial of OX Stomp for this, but in a live situation, you always have to push 3 buttons (or 2 + dial) to switch between preamps and their matching cabinets.

It's not just a push of one button to swap. But consider connecting Ruby and Dream with the 4-cable-method if you want to switch the sound. But you would lose the stereo signal path here.
 
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MC808

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exoslime said:
another vote for Lehle, their products are amazing!
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Will check them out. Another thought I had re. a parrallel path: run dream and Ruby in mono to the Ox stomp L & R. I could choose separate mics for each their and adjust pan to taste. But would the two signals be out of phase? The ox stomp doesn’t have a phase switch in the software but that would be a great feature in which case.
 
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MC808

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exoslime said:
another vote for Lehle, their products are amazing!
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Cant really understand which Lehle product would be best in this scenario. What would you recommend? My chain is: Dream / Ruby into Galaxy into OX stomp. I guess really a dual stereo fx loop might work with the dream and Ruby A/B or ABY the dream with Ruby and Galaxy in an A/B FX LOOP? It’s my first board so feedback welcome!
 
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MC808

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Newcitypraise said:
Did you ever get this figured out?
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yes! The laters dream firmware changed the phase output so I run it parrallel with the ruby (dual mono) into the ox stomp. Sounds fantastic to me. I use a boss LS-2 to split the signal before the dream and Ruby. Big bonus is you can overdrive either amp and have one running clean which gives more clarity and pick attack. Dusl cleans sound awesome two. Hope that helps and thanks @UniversalAudio for switching the dreams phase output!
 
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