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Studio monitors, which ones?

Stomper

Active Member
Im researching for a few months and trying to choose which monitors will be the best for my home/badroom studio (first monitors im buying).
ive narrow it down to 3 montiros.
Genelec 8040A
M-Audio EX66
Mackie HR624 (waiting for the mk2 to arrive to have a listen).

did anyone here worked with any of them and can tell me the advantages and disadvantages?

thnx in advance.
Stomper.
 

Klaus123

Member
Sorry, I don't want to confuse you... but...
what about ADAM Monitors?
I once owned some Genelecs I always had the impression that the highs are a bit harsh.....and I really like my ADAMs for their smooth ribbon highs now.


Greetings

Klaus
 

entoine

Member
like klaus. I recommend you to try ADAM monitors. very confortable to work with for me (I think less listening fatigue for me than with other monitors I work on), and its true the ribbon tweeters are awesome.
I own a pair of P33 and a friend of mine has a pair of artist series with a bass speaker, we are both happy with our monitors now.

entoine
 

Stomper

Active Member
cuz theres only one place to buy them here and they want too much money. alot more that it should i think.
Adam P11A = 2780USD
Dynaudio BM6A = 2926USD
Genelec 8040A = 2195USD
Mackie HR-824 = 1414USD

As u can see, there is a big difrrence between the prices and i just dont think Adam and Dynaudio worth the price. i think they cost that much just cuz their popular.
 

entoine

Member
strange....
at thomann for example :

adam p11A : 675€
genelec 8040 : 745€
bm6a mkII : 715€
mackie hr824 mk2 : 750€

these are not the same proportions... maybe due to taxe, transport, don't know
 

Stomper

Active Member
first, the prices i gave are for a pair! but still there are big diffrences and not cuzof taxes, the tax price is depends on the original price.
Adam are the most popular monitors here cuz of good marketing so they ask alot of money for them, and as i said, alot more than they should be.
 

Fundy

Established Member
Well monitors are only as good as the room they are placed in. Although I wouldn't be shy to recommend a listening test to Mackie 824 Mk.2's or Adam S7A's.
 

KaNeT

Active Member
I had the HR824 for 8 years... and was satisfied with, so I guess the HR626 are good too... but (sorry for bringing in some more choice), I have a pair of Focal TwinBe for 3 months now and it's really a revolution. I'm not afraid anymore to check my mixes in the \"real world\", all the details (from the bass to the highs) are really amazing, I don't even power up the HR824 anymore and gonna sell them soon.
 

Matt Hepworth

Master of the UADiverse
Forum Admin
Moderator
I have to agree with the posts about the room being so important.

As to the subject, I've used the HR624's quite a bit and also the EX66's.

I really think the HR624's are good, accurate, clean, detailed monitors, but...


they produce no low frequencies, really, and you'd pretty much need a sub to even do some rock styles. There's just nothing at all below 60Hz and it seems like there's a slope from about 100Hz on down.


The EX66's I find to be very detailed with EXCELLENT depth. You can really hear reverb and room sound in them that you can't on a lot of other monitors (they have superior depth to my Dynaudios).

They have quite a lot of highs. The first couple times I used them my mixes came out pretty muddy. There's a switch on the back that lowers the wow-factor that they have a bit, but really bring the highs under control. Very easy to mix on with the HF cut on. The other minor drawback is that they have great, deep, low bass, but a little bit of a dip in the 250-350Hz range. That means that it's a little bit difficult to tell if there's a bit of mud at the bottom, and sometimes it's a little too hi-fi sounding.

On the EX66's, you can hear things that you just don't hear on most monitors in a similar price range. They're very good, overall. Great wow factor too.

I owned the HR824's for a while, but ended up selling them when I heard the Dynaudios. I've not regretted it. The Dynaudios are great monitors too. The BM5A's will cost less than $1000. I think the Dynaudios have a little easier learning curve than the EX66's, but I think that, ultimately, you could do better mixes on the EX's.

Just my opinion.
 

Klaus123

Member
I don't want to bug you with mentioning adam p11a again....but....here in germany a pair is sold for 1.358 Euro!!
In dollar this should mean something about 1.800 $.
Some extra dollars for shipping and tax ... but...hey... this shouldn't be that much. Or am I wrong?

A few weeks ago I bought some woofers at allproelectronics in nashville. I think it took 60$ for shipping/handling and here at the customs they billed me 19% tax.

Maybe you can order them in germany (http://www.thomann.de)?


Greetings

Klaus
 

Eric Dahlberg

Purveyor of musical dreams fullfilled.
Stomper said:
first, the prices i gave are for a pair! but still there are big diffrences and not cuzof taxes, the tax price is depends on the original price.
Adam are the most popular monitors here cuz of good marketing so they ask alot of money for them, and as i said, alot more than they should be.
BM6A's are $1530 per pair, BM6A MKII's are $1350 per pair. Were you perhaps thinking of the BM15A's?
 

Stomper

Active Member
Eric Dahlberg said:
Stomper said:
first, the prices i gave are for a pair! but still there are big diffrences and not cuzof taxes, the tax price is depends on the original price.
Adam are the most popular monitors here cuz of good marketing so they ask alot of money for them, and as i said, alot more than they should be.
BM6A's are $1530 per pair, BM6A MKII's are $1350 per pair. Were you perhaps thinking of the BM15A's?
BM5A=1920USD
BM6A MKII=3072USD
that's the price in Israel.

Klaus123 said:
I don't want to bug you with mentioning adam p11a again....but....here in germany a pair is sold for 1.358 Euro!!
In dollar this should mean something about 1.800 $.
Some extra dollars for shipping and tax ... but...hey... this shouldn't be that much. Or am I wrong?

A few weeks ago I bought some woofers at allproelectronics in nashville. I think it took 60$ for shipping/handling and here at the customs they billed me 19% tax.

Maybe you can order them in germany (thomann.de)?


Greetings

Klaus
here it's about 32% tax so, that about 2400$ for a pair. but im not sure i want to buy something like that over the internet. if i get a defected product or if something will break in the future ill probably will need to pay for shipping it back to germany and than pay for shipping it back to israel.
 

Stomper

Active Member
Matt Hepworth said:
I have to agree with the posts about the room being so important.

As to the subject, I've used the HR624's quite a bit and also the EX66's.

I really think the HR624's are good, accurate, clean, detailed monitors, but...


they produce no low frequencies, really, and you'd pretty much need a sub to even do some rock styles. There's just nothing at all below 60Hz and it seems like there's a slope from about 100Hz on down.
Are u talking about the MKII? cuz the first are no longer for sale so i cant get them even if i want, so they might of fix the low problem.


Matt Hepworth said:
The EX66's I find to be very detailed with EXCELLENT depth. You can really hear reverb and room sound in them that you can't on a lot of other monitors (they have superior depth to my Dynaudios).

They have quite a lot of highs. The first couple times I used them my mixes came out pretty muddy. There's a switch on the back that lowers the wow-factor that they have a bit, but really bring the highs under control. Very easy to mix on with the HF cut on. The other minor drawback is that they have great, deep, low bass, but a little bit of a dip in the 250-350Hz range. That means that it's a little bit difficult to tell if there's a bit of mud at the bottom, and sometimes it's a little too hi-fi sounding.

On the EX66's, you can hear things that you just don't hear on most monitors in a similar price range. They're very good, overall. Great wow factor too.

I owned the HR824's for a while, but ended up selling them when I heard the Dynaudios. I've not regretted it. The Dynaudios are great monitors too. The BM5A's will cost less than $1000. I think the Dynaudios have a little easier learning curve than the EX66's, but I think that, ultimately, you could do better mixes on the EX's.

Just my opinion.
my fear with the EX66 is that they make problem cuz each of them got 2 woofers and it might be too much for my badroom studio, its not acousticly treated yet, but it will before ill buy the monitors. but still, 8" monitor will defenitly make me problems so im not sure 4 6" woofers wont do any.
 

Eric Dahlberg

Purveyor of musical dreams fullfilled.
Sorry, you'd quoted prices in USD so I assumed that meant you're in the US. Those prices I quoted were prices in the US.

I haven't heard the EX66's yet but the Mackie HR626's have much less bass than the HR824's do. 8040A's have sounded amazing in the small- and medium-sized rooms I've heard them in. KRK VXT6's are also excellent in similarly sized rooms.
 

Sonic_X

Member
You should count on style of music you working on, like for Rock or Pop Adam A7 is real deal, but if you need more bass responce than Dynaudio BM6A is unbeatble IMHO!
 
actually am confused about which should be a better choice ...

I'm considering

2nd genelec 1030a @ $1150 USD (pair)

or

Adam A7 NEW @ $1120 USD (pair)

or

Dynaudio BM6A MkII @ $1739 USD (pair)

could anyone enlighten me which should i go for ?

I'm doing hiphop, pop and rock music ...

Which should i go for... i want something that has the transparency and clarity to improve my mix.

Don't really like too much color on my speakers ....

confused child
 

Fundy

Established Member
The tweeter on the Adams make them worth the money alone, as ribbon tweeters can create supersonic treble which aligns the audible range meaning the results are more accurate across the board.

As you can guess I want a set of these myself, for small room monitoring at least, these are really ideal.
 

boody

Established Member
Fundy said:
The tweeter on the Adams make them worth the money alone, as ribbon tweeters can create supersonic treble which aligns the audible range meaning the results are more accurate across the board.
True; the tweeters are gorgeous. But I found the bass definition isn't all that. I tested different adam speakers a while ago and while the tweeter was superb (spacious and extremely well defined) the kick and bass we send through it sounded nothing like the original. I stuck with the BM6 and NS10. BM6 is very neutral, boring even, with the pleasant effect that if it sounds alive on the BM6's it's booming elsewhere. NS10 reveals all the detail in the mid freqs where the hearing is most sensitive and is great for checking stereo placement and effect use.
But like Eric said, the genelecs 8040 should be good. I haven't heard them yet, but people seem to be raving about them.
 
The 2nd are Genelec 1030a for $1150 USD

Are they worth the price ?
or should i just settle for a dnyaudio bm6a mkii or Genelec 8040A ?

As said i'm in an asia country. No place that i could test these monitors .. Because the demand for all these equipments are far less than anywhere in the world. i could only heed advise of you fellow users who had translate a good mix out from your monitors with uad.

confused soul hahaha
 
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