The OX Stomp manual is wrong... and that's a great thing!

[EoSNJ]

The OX Stomp manual contains the following statement:

"Stereo inputs are processed in true stereo."

The reality is that Input 1 is 'wired' to Mic 1, and Input 2 is 'wired' to Mic 2.

It's Dual Mono. They are independent mono signal paths with NO bleed between them - and they can be panned independently.

The Master, and its sends are true stereo, but the inputs are not.

This is why I run my 4 UAFX Amp boxes as 2 parallel mono chains, into the OX Stomp.

Here's my config - at least the UAFX portion: ABY box in Both mode sending to 2 outputs.
A goes to Ruby->Woodrow-> Ox Stomp Input 1.
B goes to Dream->Lion -> Ox Stomp Input 2.

Ox Outputs go to 2 mono Apollo inputs.

So what? So each side can be configured differently - I can have the Ruby on, with it's cab emulation on - Set Mic 1 to DI. And Lion is on, but with its cab off - Mic 2 is set to say, a Condenser 67.

2 different amps, 2 different cabs, blendable with the Mic 1 & 2 knobs. Or panned hard L&R to record each on separate tracks.

Pan them hard left and right, and the Dual Delay (unlink delay time and pan) can have different delay times for each.

You can set up a rig so only 1 side is hot, and panned center. Another rig with the other side hot. It becomes an A/B box.

Scratching the surface here. The point is that it's MUCH more flexible than if the inputs were treated as 'true stereo'.

And that's a great thing.

Is there a downside? yes, you can't blend the mics for the same side. But the flexibility provided over all easily overcomes this.

A wish? Yes, that the 1176 was dual mono. That would rock.

Anyway, I've seen a number of posts asking about how to setup multiple pedals, and this feature expands the possibilities greatly.

Cheers

 

[Mikkisixx68]

The OX Stomp manual contains the following statement:

"Stereo inputs are processed in true stereo."

The reality is that Input 1 is 'wired' to Mic 1, and Input 2 is 'wired' to Mic 2.

It's Dual Mono. They are independent mono signal paths with NO bleed between them - and they can be panned independently.

The Master, and its sends are true stereo, but the inputs are not.

This is why I run my 4 UAFX Amp boxes as 2 parallel mono chains, into the OX Stomp.

Here's my config - at least the UAFX portion: ABY box in Both mode sending to 2 outputs.
A goes to Ruby->Woodrow-> Ox Stomp Input 1.
B goes to Dream->Lion -> Ox Stomp Input 2.

Ox Outputs go to 2 mono Apollo inputs.

So what? So each side can be configured differently - I can have the Ruby on, with it's cab emulation on - Set Mic 1 to DI. And Lion is on, but with its cab off - Mic 2 is set to say, a Condenser 67.

2 different amps, 2 different cabs, blendable with the Mic 1 & 2 knobs. Or panned hard L&R to record each on separate tracks.

Pan them hard left and right, and the Dual Delay (unlink delay time and pan) can have different delay times for each.

You can set up a rig so only 1 side is hot, and panned center. Another rig with the other side hot. It becomes an A/B box.

Scratching the surface here. The point is that it's MUCH more flexible than if the inputs were treated as 'true stereo'.

And that's a great thing.

Is there a downside? yes, you can't blend the mics for the same side. But the flexibility provided over all easily overcomes this.

A wish? Yes, that the 1176 was dual mono. That would rock.

Anyway, I've seen a number of posts asking about how to setup multiple pedals, and this feature expands the possibilities greatly.

Cheers

Hi can you clarify for me how to send the OX Stomp to an on stage FRFR with all amp/cab/FX and also to FOH with all amp/cab/FX? I have four UAFX amp pedals going into the OX Stomp and just want to have the sound go to both FRFR and FOH with same...... Manual is a bit confusing as it only references an "amp" not "FRFR". Thanks much

 

[Ron76]

Hi can you clarify for me how to send the OX Stomp to an on stage FRFR with all amp/cab/FX and also to FOH with all amp/cab/FX? I have four UAFX amp pedals going into the OX Stomp and just want to have the sound go to both FRFR and FOH with same...... Manual is a bit confusing as it only references an "amp" not "FRFR". Thanks much

Placing a Canvas Stereo at the end of the chain would be a good solution, also with the option of giving out a mono sum signal to FOH with symmetrical XLR out.

 

[Ron76]

The OX Stomp manual contains the following statement:

"Stereo inputs are processed in true stereo."

The reality is that Input 1 is 'wired' to Mic 1, and Input 2 is 'wired' to Mic 2.

It's Dual Mono. They are independent mono signal paths with NO bleed between them - and they can be panned independently.

The Master, and its sends are true stereo, but the inputs are not.

This is why I run my 4 UAFX Amp boxes as 2 parallel mono chains, into the OX Stomp.

Here's my config - at least the UAFX portion: ABY box in Both mode sending to 2 outputs.
A goes to Ruby->Woodrow-> Ox Stomp Input 1.
B goes to Dream->Lion -> Ox Stomp Input 2.

Ox Outputs go to 2 mono Apollo inputs.

So what? So each side can be configured differently - I can have the Ruby on, with it's cab emulation on - Set Mic 1 to DI. And Lion is on, but with its cab off - Mic 2 is set to say, a Condenser 67.

2 different amps, 2 different cabs, blendable with the Mic 1 & 2 knobs. Or panned hard L&R to record each on separate tracks.

Pan them hard left and right, and the Dual Delay (unlink delay time and pan) can have different delay times for each.

You can set up a rig so only 1 side is hot, and panned center. Another rig with the other side hot. It becomes an A/B box.

Scratching the surface here. The point is that it's MUCH more flexible than if the inputs were treated as 'true stereo'.

And that's a great thing.

Is there a downside? yes, you can't blend the mics for the same side. But the flexibility provided over all easily overcomes this.

A wish? Yes, that the 1176 was dual mono. That would rock.

Anyway, I've seen a number of posts asking about how to setup multiple pedals, and this feature expands the possibilities greatly.

Cheers

I get your point, but I think this is what they meant by "true stereo"... Separate signals.
However, there is some disadvantages in your method:

• You cannot use the Room mics of OX stromp, as this will bleed the sounds. Which I would not like.
• I've done a recording session yesterday and ended up recording the LION & Ruby in stereo (without OX stomp). I think the stereo amp signal sounds much better than running the pedals in mono for recording. I also like to use the Room sounds, as this brings a lot of depth to the guitar sound. I can totally live with running a pedal in mono through a PA system though.

Switching and routing, in general, is still a major flaw of the UAFX world... Hope they will work on this.

 

[hiilari]

The OX Stomp manual contains the following statement:

"Stereo inputs are processed in true stereo."

The reality is that Input 1 is 'wired' to Mic 1, and Input 2 is 'wired' to Mic 2.

It's Dual Mono. They are independent mono signal paths with NO bleed between them - and they can be panned independently.

The Master, and its sends are true stereo, but the inputs are not.

This is why I run my 4 UAFX Amp boxes as 2 parallel mono chains, into the OX Stomp.

Here's my config - at least the UAFX portion: ABY box in Both mode sending to 2 outputs.
A goes to Ruby->Woodrow-> Ox Stomp Input 1.
B goes to Dream->Lion -> Ox Stomp Input 2.

Ox Outputs go to 2 mono Apollo inputs.

So what? So each side can be configured differently - I can have the Ruby on, with it's cab emulation on - Set Mic 1 to DI. And Lion is on, but with its cab off - Mic 2 is set to say, a Condenser 67.

2 different amps, 2 different cabs, blendable with the Mic 1 & 2 knobs. Or panned hard L&R to record each on separate tracks.

Pan them hard left and right, and the Dual Delay (unlink delay time and pan) can have different delay times for each.

You can set up a rig so only 1 side is hot, and panned center. Another rig with the other side hot. It becomes an A/B box.

Scratching the surface here. The point is that it's MUCH more flexible than if the inputs were treated as 'true stereo'.

And that's a great thing.

Is there a downside? yes, you can't blend the mics for the same side. But the flexibility provided over all easily overcomes this.

A wish? Yes, that the 1176 was dual mono. That would rock.

Anyway, I've seen a number of posts asking about how to setup multiple pedals, and this feature expands the possibilities greatly.

Cheers

Hello, greetings from Finland

I was super-puzzled today about this very issue and this post totally explains it. Thanks!

But this also messes up my ideas on how to use my OX Stomp as I was running a full stereo signal with the Stomp as very last. The reason: especially the Hologram Microcosm gets a bit all over the place with random-generated really high and really low frequencies, and having a speaker emulation after it tames it nicely.

Now, if I pan the two mics hard left and right I do keep the stereo, but then it only makes sense if the two mics are the same. And I do like, just in real life, a mix of 57 and ribbon.

So it is a back-to-the-good-old-drawing-board for me. Either go to some wet-dry setup, have the OX Stomp as the point where I go mono->stereo, or experiment with the two amp approach like you do. Which, by the way, sounds like a brilliant idea.

Cheers,
Mika

 

[Eric Dahlberg]

You'll get a wider stereo spread if you use two different mics. However, that would probably be better done with the 57 and MD421, not the ribbon, because of how drastically different it sounds.

 

[hiilari]

You'll get a wider stereo spread if you use two different mics. However, that would probably be better done with the 57 and MD421, not the ribbon, because of how drastically different it sounds.

Good tip!

And yeah, I love ribbons on both acoustic guitars and amp miking, because of the big warm low end. So big that it's often too much but great for smaller music where there's no drums and bass. Just got two ribbon mics from NoHypeAudio.

 

[Eric Dahlberg]

You could try the ribbon on one side and the C414 on the other. The C414 has a similar amount of bass as the ribbon, then you can EQ out the extra high-end (or not!).