Tube Screamer or Amp Plugin? (Part 2 Revised)

[Digiplay]

Please forgive me for this revised Thread to the earlier Thread I had, but I feel that it had gone on for so long (VERY helpful to me, btw) that I didn't think it would be "smart" to post a reply that was a little to late to say what I should have said first thing in the older Post

So here I go...................................................................................

I'm using my Recording Rig (Strat/SM7B/MBP/Apollo/Fender Deluxe Tweed plugin/LPX) to record my original songs, not record covers, and I want to stick with UAD plugins that will work in the Unison Slot.

The genres I write in, in order of most often, are:

1) Pop.
2) R&B.
3) New Country.
4) Contemporary Jazz.
5) Light Rock (but not very often).


So, and as Paul Harvey used to say, "Now you know....the rest of the story".


That being the case, and as I want to take advantage of the UAD 2 for $99 Special going on now, and knowing what style music I'm writing in, do you believe I would be better served by going with 1 amp and the TS, or with 2 amps that would sound more appropriate for the given genres than my Tweed Deluxe offers?

If so, depending on which route you suggest, what would you recommend for the one amp, or the two amps?

 

[Digiplay]

FWIW, letting you know the genres I use was the reason I believed the new Thread was necessary.

For example, if I said I only write Heavy Metal, your suggestions would be different if I said I only write Bluegrass songs

 

[chrisharbin]

For sure. I think some of us are just not quite understanding why you want to do it this way. But hey, what works for ya is what works for ya.

For example, it just seems easier to have a plug on a track where you can tweak to your hearts content rather than printing everything. But that's just me.

 

[klasaine]

Here’s my final and IMO definitive answer.
Forget the TS. You’ll ultimately get more and varied mileage out of another amp. I would go for the Suhr PT because 1) it sounds good and 2) it’s super versatile.

If you really really want that TS pedal, just wait. It’ll go on sale at some point. Or save some extra money.

If you use an Apollo and own a real TS or TS variant, it‘ll sound great between your guitar and Apollo into amp sim.

 

[Eric Dahlberg]

Re contemporary jazz: are you looking for this kind of tone?

 

[Digiplay]

Hey, I’m open to change

if I could figure out how to monitor/practice on a LPX track (like I can easily do within the Console), I would be fine with that!

 

[chrisharbin]

Before I tell you how I do it, which host do you use, Luna?

 

[Digiplay]

Before I tell you how I do it, which host do you use, Luna?

LPX for now.

 

[chrisharbin]

You mean Logic right? PERFECT.

Simply make an audio track, insert plug "x", and your done. Now, it does take more CPU, so that is a consideration. For the music you do, maybe the unison is the best bet, but it couldn't be easier and you'll be able to use virtually anything you want AND tweak to your hearts content.

 

[Digiplay]

You mean Logic right? PERFECT.

Simply make an audio track, insert plug "x", and your done. Now, it does take more CPU, so that is a consideration. For the music you do, maybe the unison is the best bet, but it couldn't be easier and you'll be able to use virtually anything you want AND tweak to your hearts content.

I’ll give it a try now, but I am curious if I were to start using Luna, will a plugin use as much CPU on an audio track as Logic does?

 

[chrisharbin]

Nah, unless your computer is woefully under powered, you'll likely be fine.

Remember, you can demo any of this stuff and make sure that that works for your personal workflow

 

[Digiplay]

I'm trying the Tweed plugin on the Logic track now, and I think I now know what latency feels/sounds like

 

[Digiplay]

Here’s my final and IMO definitive answer.
Forget the TS. You’ll ultimately get more and varied mileage out of another amp. I would go for the Suhr PT because 1) it sounds good and 2) it’s super versatile.

If you really really want that TS pedal, just wait. It’ll go on sale at some point. Or save some extra money.

If you use an Apollo and own a real TS or TS variant, it‘ll sound great between your guitar and Apollo into amp sim.

1) And which second amp?
2) I was thinking as well why not just buy a TS pedal, and put it between my Strat and Apollo Interface

 

[chrisharbin]

BTW, before I forget, LP has some decent plugs for amp sim right there. Check 'em out, you never know.

 

[chrisharbin]

I'm trying the Tweed plugin on the Logic track now, and I think I now know what latency feels/sounds like

You mean in a bad way? Yeah, I'm afraid I never understood ARM well.

 

[Digiplay]

You mean in a bad way? Yeah, I'm afraid I never understood ARM well.

Yes, in a bad way

 

[chrisharbin]

I hadn't taken that into consideration, sorry about that. Most of us are used to running at really low latency.

Well shucks, other than demoing what you don't have and hearing for yourself, not sure if I can be much help.

 

[Eric Dahlberg]

I'm trying the Tweed plugin on the Logic track now, and I think I now know what latency feels/sounds like

Don't load UA amps in Logic for realtime use. A native plugin won't have that latency issue. Install the free TONEX CS, for example, and you won't have that issue:

TONEX

AmpliTube TONEX for Mac/PC uses breakthrough AI Machine Modeling™ technology to model the sound of any amp, cabinet, combo and most pedals and turn it into a plug-in.

www.ikmultimedia.com

TONEX CS comes with a Tube Screamer, a Twin Reverb, and a Deluxe Reverb, which will cover the styles you're looking for. If you're looking for a Larry Carlton tone, you can buy the ODS Legends pack, and that's better than the Fuchs Overdrive Supreme plugin.

 

[Digiplay]

BTW, before I forget, LP has some decent plugs for amp sim right there. Check 'em out, you never know.

I'm trying them now, and my first impression is WOW!!

There is also a way to build a Pedalboard, and it seems pretty cool as well.

 

[Digiplay]

Don't load UA amps in Logic for realtime use. A native plugin won't have that latency issue. Install the free TONEX CS, for example, and you won't have that issue:

TONEX

AmpliTube TONEX for Mac/PC uses breakthrough AI Machine Modeling™ technology to model the sound of any amp, cabinet, combo and most pedals and turn it into a plug-in.

www.ikmultimedia.com

TONEX CS comes with a Tube Screamer, a Twin Reverb, and a Deluxe Reverb, which will cover the styles you're looking for. If you're looking for a Larry Carlton tone, you can buy the ODS Legends pack, and that's better than the Fuchs Overdrive Supreme plugin.

I noticed not having the latency when I was trying the LPX Amps.

Why?