Tube-tech CL 1B plugin for Poco and TDM

[josva]

http://www.tcelectronic.com/Default.asp?Id=10572

http://www.tcelectronic.com/tubetech_cl1b


That's cool.
Totally amzing, and price is SO AMAZING :evil:

I'd rather buy real one than expensive fake plug..

How can a plugin's price exceed the Neve bundle price?

 

[lordward]

They are obviously full of shit....

:roll:

 

[Spacey]

http://www.tc-now.com/default.asp?id=339&cur=1 I can't believe those prices!!! How much!!!

 

[josva]

We already have full of compressors..
Would you spend more $800 for just one plugin?
Futhermore, we can load only 2 plugs @44.1 and 1@96khz. :roll:
(of course I say Poco and PT TDM)
What a suprising instances..

I already have enough compressors..

Actually, CL 1B is a 'more tweakable' LA-2A..

I'm satisfied with my LA2a plugs and 33609..

 

[BTLG]

The tubetech CL1B IS one of the most used vocal compressors these days though. The LA2A seems to have falling out of favor

 

[F5D]

In my case the powercore seems to be falling out of favor. :lol:

In fact I've been trying to figure out whether to sell my powercore pci mk2 and vss3. At some point I will switch to a mac pro and thanks to TC's great upgrade plan nobody can transfer their registered plugins to the new powercore express card if we don't send our existing powercore to TC for good! So we have to sell the plugins and powercores first and then buy the powercore express and the plugins AGAIN!

Basically I've been using only the VSS3 lately and the M3000 price has come down so I will probably sell my vss3 + powercore pci mk2 and get an M3000 and use sony oxford reverb and space designer plugins instead. :x

 

[saemskin]

powercores old license transfer policy was bad for their business imo. I bought the Master X5 a long time ago and wasnt really using it so I sold the license, but I still have the .dll file on my computer and the reg info. So I still \"own\" the plug.

Thus there is (was) nothing stopping me from buying ALL the plugs and just turning around and selling them on ebay for 75-85% of what I paid. That would allow me to buy the plugs at a reasonable rate instead of the total ass-raping every one of their plugs currently is. But, it's not up to me or you to decide Powercores pricing structure.

If it's too expensive for you then passively protest and just dont buy them. There's no sense complaining about it every time they release a new plugin. But that doesnt stop all the whiners each and every time UAD releases a plugin now does it?

 

[Arys Chien]

I agree with Matt on CL1B v.s. LA2A.

The CL1B has been a very popular vocal compressor. 3 out of 3 big studios have it. Yet I've always heard about the hype about LA2A, and thought it to be better than the CL1B.

Then a couple of years ago when I finally had a chance to work with one, I was a bit disappointed. Not that it wasn't great, but not THAT great as people hyped it to be. The more important thing is that, for modern rock and pop, I'd choose the CL1B over the LA2A 7 out of 10 songs.

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I can't believe that Tubetech choose TC to emulate their hardware. That's not what TC's been good at. Why haven't them talked to UA? Silly...... Look at the history of TC making compressor plug-ins and they should have some idea.

 

[Eric Dahlberg]

I can't believe that Tubetech choose TC to emulate their hardware. That's not what TC's been good at. Why haven't them talked to UA? Silly...... Look at the history of TC making compressor plug-ins and they should have some idea.

They have a history together as TC used to be the US distributor for Tube Tech. Plus, they're both Danish.

 

[replicant]

Both are Danish, but the emulations are done by a Swedish company, Softube and not TC.

http://www.softube.com/

They've done some plug-ins for the SCOPE platform previously, but they seem pricey as well.

 

[Cabbage]

[quote="Arys Chien":z9tripjl]I can't believe that Tubetech choose TC to emulate their hardware. That's not what TC's been good at. Why haven't them talked to UA? Silly...... Look at the history of TC making compressor plug-ins and they should have some idea.

They have a history together as TC used to be the US distributor for Tube Tech. Plus, they're both Danish.[/quote:z9tripjl]

And I am convinced the former is the result of the latter.

Petter

 

[dusty]

I own a tube tech cl1B, well lucky me, i guess :lol:

And I also own(i'm thinking 2 sell asap though)a powercore compact.

I guess this is another sloppy attempt from TC to catch up with duende and other DSP companies.

For that money i'd rather buy a second hand HW comp such as the EL distressor.

 

[d-dmusic]

Yet another plug-in compressor ? Personally, I'm not too excited and considering the price - it had better completely knock it out of the park and into the next county.

Anyway, where is all of this going ? More & more knock off's ?

 

[Arys Chien]

And I also own(i'm thinking 2 sell asap though)a powercore compact.

I just bought a few outboard eqs and compressors. I'll use the Neve eq plug-ins for the rest, so I might not need the Sony Oxford EQ as much as before. Also a Reverb 4000 is coming, meaning one less VSS3 instance needed. Time to sell 2 of my 3 PoCos.

For that money i'd rather buy a second hand HW comp such as the EL distressor.

I might buy a pair just in a few days. 8)

 

[Stuart Stuart]

As I wrote on the PoCo forum, it seems to me that TC are pricing themselves out of the market. It's as if they want to give their plugs 'pro' price tags, which is fine, except for the fact that UA is providing brilliant plugins that pros ARE using, at very reasonable prices.

The days of TDM ridiculous elitist prices are coming to a close. And TC is still living in that universe.

These days, you read a recording mag, and an interview with a hot mixing engineer, and you find many of them are using UA stuff, and plugins in general. With the record business being what it is, people will sacrifice a little bit of retro hardware authenticity for recall, flexibiity, fast turnaround, and maximum tweakability. And uad stuff fills the gap beautifully.

Funny, sometimes these guys say stuff like 'I use old school stuff, like the Waves C1 compressor'. I'll bet you one million dollars that in 10 years people will refer to uad cards as retro vintage gear.

Sorry, what was I saying? Oh yeah, TC charge too much.

 

[imdrecordings]

tTC are pricing themselves out of the market. It's as if they want to give their plugs 'pro' price tags, which is fine, except for the fact that UA is providing brilliant plugins that pros ARE using, at very reasonable prices.
Oh yeah, TC charge too much.

This is why I don't buy a TC Powercore.....
Not because I can't afford the card or don't like the way they sound, but because I can't afford the plugs.
They're idiots.

-S_ :|

 

[saemskin]

For what I'm doing the Tc01 monosynth is very useful and worth the 300 (with the 50 dollar rebate!) I originally paid for the Element waaay back when.
I love it. Acid balls from hell.

This thread reminds me of something I read on a message board about elitism and expensive gear; People will think their expensive plugins really do sound better because they have to mentally justify the price they paid for them. It has to sound better, right? It's amazing how we can fool ourselves into thinking these things. The benefit of message boards like this is that it keeps a person grounded. A spade usually gets called a spade pretty quickly. :wink: