Two Notes Genome

Jips

Jips

Active Member
Two Notes just released this new guitar plugin and I am amazed. The sound and handling is excellent. I can use with the dyn-ir's I bought for my Cab M. I would love to have a similar (Apollo) plugin for my ox stomp. Check it out!

Hope that UAD fixes the app for the stop boxes asap also.....
 
shatzer

shatzer

Established Member
Played with it a couple hours last night. First impressions aren’t good. Starting out, it was a crash fest with Luna.
Feels finicky.
Some amp models sound decent, mostly not. Compared to my ancient Eleven Rack going through an Ox Stomp was actually about the same quality amp sims or better, and that’s ancient technology. lol

Will keep playing around but will probably pass on this one.
 
Jips

Jips

Active Member
Well, my first impression was thinny sounding. However, after a restart of my Mac and Logic the sound was very good.
 
Rainflower

Rainflower

Venerated Member
I haven’t played with it yet…I was using the cabm+ this morning though..I’m wondering if I would need to use Genome. Can’t I just reamp through the cabm+? Maybe I should watch the videos.. lol
 
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jaeger28

Active Member
Nah, boring. I've spent 20 minutes on it. I own about 40 cabs purchased from two notes so I got it free. I rather spend time on my Lion/Ox/2290P board, wayyyy more fun.
 
Rainflower

Rainflower

Venerated Member
jaeger28 said:
Nah, boring. I've spent 20 minutes on it. I own about 40 cabs purchased from two notes so I got it free. I rather spend time on my Lion/Ox/2290P board, wayyyy more fun.
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cool, I won’t waste any time on it…..
 
klasaine

klasaine

Hall of Fame Member
I have the free version waiting for me but I doubt I’ll even download it.
My two notes stuff served me well for awhile but since the 4 uafx amp pedals came out, my Captor has seen very little use. My real amps haven’t seen much use either, other than for live playing.
 
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Joe Porto

Hall of Fame Member
I got a free copy via email. I think it sounds pretty darn good. Some presets sound great but as usual, have way too much reverb and delay but once you dial that back, the amp models sound pretty good. Klon into Vox style (can’t remember name) into 2x12 open Blue was really fun and had a great feel. Purple Pain preset had me playing some Wendy.

GUI seems kind of clunky though. I wasn’t expecting all the pedal/amp/fx modeling but I WAS expecting a much improved GUI. That is not the case. Celestion SMP is a better GUI as far as being able to quickly change cabs and mics for a given speaker model, as well as mixing multiple speakers and room. Genome is something I’ll explore, but it’s not replacing SMP for me.
 
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anonyrat

Member
When I got the Opus I put it beside the OX stomp and weighing them up was 50/50 ish. Was not too impressed with the cabs that came with the Opus. After I purchased a selection of their better cabs, that changed the equation. The OX was replaced by the Opus because it just sounded better and has MIDI so I can change a lot of presets. It is quite hard to dial in your initial sound as there are so many parameters, preamp, power amp, FX but the biggest changes I found were cabs and mics. For example on an open backed cab the mics can be placed front or back.
So now I have the Genome. My DAW is Studio One and it did take a while to load my cabs. Maybe that is a one off I will see. The GUI is similar to the Opus PC GUI via Torpedo remote app. I have yet to fully test the genome, not sure I will use all of it.
Honestly I cannot see UA getting anywhere near this level of plugin when they cannot even write a simple app. Challenge. Prove me wrong UA
 
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Joe Porto

Hall of Fame Member
shatzer said:
Played with it a couple hours last night. First impressions aren’t good. Starting out, it was a crash fest with Luna.
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Started a project in Logic and had my own crash fest. Took 5 tries recovering to get a newly saved Logic project with an instance of Genome to open. Latest Logic 10.8.1 and Genome 1.0.2.
 
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Joe Porto

Hall of Fame Member
No dual mono mode. I had to search the manual on this, which confirmed that L/R are always mixed on stereo tracks. Also, the GUI only shows one cab w/ two mics at a time. You can split to multiple cabs, but unlike WOSIII, there is not a single window to mix all your speaker/mics together. You have to open each speaker to adjust each mic, then open a lane mixer to mix each speaker.

These are useful features for me that made WOSIII and still make Celestion SMP excellent speaker emulators. I guess the emulation has become second fiddle to the new "all in one" amp sim concept. So if you want to feed a stereo channel to Genome, you'll need to juggle two tracks and two plugin instances.

Not going to work for me, but still a fun plugin if they can fix the crashing issue.
 
Rainflower

Rainflower

Venerated Member
Joe Porto said:
No dual mono mode. I had to search the manual on this, which confirmed that L/R are always mixed on stereo tracks. Also, the GUI only shows one cab w/ two mics at a time. You can split to multiple cabs, but unlike WOSIII, there is not a single window to mix all your speaker/mics together. You have to open each speaker to adjust each mic, then open a lane mixer to mix each speaker.

These are useful features for me that made WOSIII and still make Celestion SMP excellent speaker emulators. I guess the emulation has become second fiddle to the new "all in one" amp sim concept. So if you want to feed a stereo channel to Genome, you'll need to juggle two tracks and two plugin instances.

Not going to work for me, but still a fun plugin if they can fix the crashing issue.
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the demo i saw showed some sort of mixer for the a/b split…(?)
 
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Joe Porto

Hall of Fame Member
Rainflower said:
the demo i saw showed some sort of mixer for the a/b split…(?)
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The lane mixer I mentioned sums the a/b split.

Basically you can mix two lanes, each with a speaker with two mics. But it's 3 separate windows to fully mix 4 signals.

WOSIII allowed you to mix up to 8 speakers, each with two mics IIRC, all in a single window. Hence the name Wall of Sound, I assume.
 
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klong

Established Member
So far I think Genome is pretty good, but when I'm not using my Friedman IR-X and a few UAD and non-UAD efffects for room/reverb/delay, I'm still reaching for NAM or Tonex plugin mostly. The long initial load time is annoying. The modulation effects are pretty good, that is probably my favorite piece of it so far.
 
Eric Dahlberg

Eric Dahlberg

Purveyor of musical dreams fullfilled.
anonyrat said:
When I got the Opus I put it beside the OX stomp and weighing them up was 50/50 ish. Was not too impressed with the cabs that came with the Opus. After I purchased a selection of their better cabs, that changed the equation.
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Can you recommend some cabs?

Also, can anyone recommend some good NAM profiles?
 
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anonyrat

Member
Eric Dahlberg said:
Can you recommend some cabs?
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I play lap steel and pedal steel and spent many months trying to get a good sound using the Line6 Stomp XL. I finally got it using a
Paul Franklin's Eminence PF350 IR. When I got the Opus there was nothing even close. So I went through a lot of descriptions of cabs that contained Eminence speakers. I found at least a dozen really good sounding cabs, whilst not quite as good as the PF350, gave me some very usable options.
You are allowed to demo cabs and this will allow one to select what suits your style. Me, I predominantly need a very clean warm sound. Probably none of the cabs I have would suit heavy metal or a lot of pop. Beware though, demoing can be expensive 😊
 
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