UA Remote Control Pre-Release - iOS & Android app for Console

[raduvarga]

Hi everyone, this is Radu Varga, the creator of UA Midi Control.
I have some exciting news that I want to share with you.

Together with my fellow designer Alex Pitea, we've created UA Remote Control - a new tablet and phone app that can directly control Console via WiFi, available for iOS and Android.

If you are interested to find out more, check the product page and try the 14-day trial.

 

[rodd]

Thanks @raduvarga , I bought it! Do you have plans to allow customization of the screen? This seems like a great option for a live setup control, but it would be nice to be able to select what was shown on the screen, especially on the phone version. For example, if we wanted to allow people to only change their cue (monitor) mix, you could select only those elements that are in that mix to streamline it, as well as the output volume for their IEMs/monitor. Thanks!

edit: I see you can lock the screen to the cue sends, that is cool. it would be nice to be able to remove the channels that are not being sent, or just rearrange the channels in general. This is a common request for Console, you could make this app do whatever you wanted though!

 

[Rene O]

Looks great, Radu! Thanks so much for making this.

 

[artei]

Love this. Can you explain the "Test Flight" beta app part of this? I am paying you to help you beta test your app?? Talking about the iOS version here.

 

[rodd]

There is a 14 day free trial. From what I read about it, he’s trying to finish the App Store process so it can be published. This is a way to get people to preview it if they want. The version says 1.0, so I’m guessing it will be the same version when it’s published to the store.

 

[shatzer]

Hi everyone, this is Radu Varga, the creator of UA Midi Control.
I have some exciting news that I want to share with you.

Together with my fellow designer Alex Pitea, we've created UA Remote Control - a new tablet and phone app that can directly control Console via WiFi, available for iOS and Android.

If you are interested to find out more, check the product page.

Nice! Any plans for Luna?

 

[rodd]

Nice! Any plans for Luna?

there are mackie protocol apps for the iPad that will work with Luna.

 

[bigshinyT]

Bravo Radu. Bought to support

 

[raduvarga]

@artei As others pointed out, we are experiencing some administrative delays related to the AppStore process. We've already been Beta testing since a year and the app is ready for production, so we wanted to make a Pre-Release so everybody can try it out and get some feedback. Purchasing a license is completely optional at this stage, you can wait until the official release for the AppStore and just play around with the current version. For Android it's already on the GoolePlay store.

@rodd We are actually working on the custom screens, but it will probably take a few more months of development. Rearranging channels is also something we have planned.
We also want to enhance the Lock to CUE functionality, it will be a common use of the app (monitor control for each band member). If you have other suggestions, we are open.

 

[JamesNorth]

Radu is a legend who has made hundreds of seasons for me way easier with his UA Midi Control app

 

[rodd]

This is really cool. I have been thinking about buying a live mixer recently, but this opens up the possibility that I could just use my x8. Using this with the Console MIDI/Mackie Control apps should also allow using a physical DAW controller for fader functions, while using the iPad app would be better suited for controlling plugins. I guess using the Mackie plugin would have been possible before since it has been out for a while, but the plugin control was a bit harder to use imo, due to the limitations of how the control surface works. But now, using that for physical faders and pots that can be mapped to whatever you want in the Mackie Control app, then this with plugin control... seems totally possible. Just have to figure out the connectivity piece for the control surface.

 

[Quint]

So, if you're using Luna, and go and turn knobs in Console directly, does that cause any issues with Luna, or does everything stay synced up?

I ask because, though I don't really use Console at all anymore, and just do everything in Luna, it could be handy to have a band access Console via their phone and this new app, and manipulate the cues that way. I just wouldn't want all of that to cause issues with Luna.

Hmm...

 

[rodd]

So, if you're using Luna, and go and turn knobs in Console directly, does that cause any issues with Luna, or does everything stay synced up?

I ask because, though I don't really use Console at all anymore, and just do everything in Luna, it could be handy to have a band access Console via their phone and this new app, and manipulate the cues that way. I just wouldn't want all of that to cause issues with Luna.

Hmm...

I tried this a while back with the midi control version, before Luna had plug-in control. It seemed to work, but only on the first 4 inserts and unison. I still like that option because you can map the controls to whatever you want with the UA console midi control app. With the mackie implementation in Luna you can get into pretty deep menus to get to the control you want to change. I’m no expert on it, I sort of gave up on the Luna plugin control because it seems too difficult to be usable on a “regular” controller. In fairness, I don’t think this is specific to Luna, I think it’s a limitation of the mackie protocol. Radu’s implementations give at least a hope at some sort of customization.

 

[Quint]

I tried this a while back with the midi control version, before Luna had plug-in control. It seemed to work, but only on the first 4 inserts and unison. I still like that option because you can map the controls to whatever you want with the UA console midi control app. With the mackie implementation in Luna you can get into pretty deep menus to get to the control you want to change. I’m no expert on it, I sort of gave up on the Luna plugin control because it seems too difficult to be usable on a “regular” controller. In fairness, I don’t think this is specific to Luna, I think it’s a limitation of the mackie protocol. Radu’s implementations give at least a hope at some sort of customization.

As long as someone on a phone can remotely control the cues and cue sends in Console, without it simultaneously causing issues in Luna, that's all I need it to do. I probably wouldn't want anyone messing with the inserts anyway, but if so, the first four insert slots only is okay because it's only the first four slots in Luna that are ARM available anyway.

FYI, if you haven't checked out the Rocksolid Micro 3, you should look into it for plugin control. I have one and I like it. That, in combination with my Stream Deck gives me a lot of control. It kind of makes the the Console and Tape extensions somewhat useless to me, as I can easily control any plugin with the Micro 3 and Stream Deck, plus, I'm not limited to just the single Console model that UA offers as an extension, as much as I may like the API.

UA REALLY needs to figure out proper hardware control of the extensions, otherwise that whole concept is kind of dead, in my opinion. It might already be kind of dead. I mean, the API was released three years ago or something, and there's been zero new extension since then.

 

[rodd]

As long as someone on a phone can remotely control the cues and cue sends in Console, without it simultaneously causing issues in Luna, that's all I need it to do. I probably wouldn't want anyone messing with the inserts anyway, but if so, the first four insert slots only is okay because it's only the first four slots in Luna that are ARM available anyway.

FYI, if you haven't checked out the Rocksolid Micro 3, you should look into it for plugin control. I have one and I like it. That, in combination with my Stream Deck gives me a lot of control. It kind of makes the the Console and Tape extensions somewhat useless to me, as I can easily control any plugin with the Micro 3 and Stream Deck, plus, I'm not limited to just the single Console model that UA offers, as much as I may like the API.

Cool I haven’t seen that before! Will check it out.

 

[Quint]

Cool I haven’t seen that before! Will check it out.

They also have a more SSL-specific model, if that's your thing, but I prefer the generic nature of the Micro 3. Each knob is also a push button as well as a push and turn knob. So, when you consider how many knobs are on there, plus the the dedicated push buttons, you can start to see that there is a LOT of individually assignable functions on that one little box. It works quite well for the API Vision Plugin.

 

[UA User]

UA REALLY needs to figure out proper hardware control of the extensions, otherwise that whole concept is kind of dead, in my opinion. It might already be kind of dead. I mean, the API was released three years ago or something, and there's been zero new extension since then.

I saw someone mention the possibility of controlling the extensions with the Softube MKIII, but I can’t find that thread.

 

[Quint]

I saw someone mention the possibility of controlling the extensions with the Softube MKIII, but I can’t find that thread.

If so, that must be a pretty recent development.

 

[UA User]

If so, that must be a pretty recent development.

IIRC it had to do with using arm and Apollo Central? It was late before bed when I saw it. Wish I could find it again.

 

[Quint]

IIRC it had to do with using arm and Apollo Central? It was late before bed when I saw it. Wish I could find it again.

Ah, yeah, I've heard of the Apollo Central thing. But I'm talking about direct control of the extensions within Luna. I don't think that Softube C1 can do that.