Uad-1 and Matrox P650

[ian j]

Hi peeps, i just got my first uad card this week,i bought it second hand from e-bay and iv'e run into a bit of a problem,i have just built the best daw i could afford,its a dual xeon with a asus NCHH-DL mobo with a matrox P650 graphics card, 1.5 gig of geil ddr400 ram,4 wd raptors set up as 2 raid 0,with xp sp1.After putting in my soundcard(st audio c-port) and all the latest drivers i installed the uad card,this is when the problem started, my graphics card stopped responding,my second screen shut down and the resolution reduced 800x600 and to 4 BIT.The error i get is that the graphics card doesn't have enough resorces and i should shut down another device.After reading a few posts on this forum i disabled the onboard Promise controller,this didn't work.I tried older drivers for both the matrox and the uad(of the original cd) After this i decided to re-install xp nice and fresh,all latest drivers,no pci cards at all,no usb and just 1 raid, i installed the matrox no probs,then as soon as i installed the uad the grapics went again, i tried the uad in another slot same again.Hopefully someone can help as i have totally run out of ideas, i also tried sp2 aswell no better.Cheers for your time, ian j.

 

[ian j]

Some info i forgot Hyper threading is disabled, all onboard stuff is disabled(printer ect) No internet connection or nasty software.Just had a look at the control panel under display and with the uad card in the max resolution is 800x600 and 4 bit colours instead of 32 and only 1 screen,all other options are greyed out,under advanced it says error code 12 not enough resorces to use this device.As soon as i remove the uad card windows re-installed the matrox drivers,back with 2 screens 1280x1024 res with 32bit colour,re-install the uad back to 1 screen 800x600 4bit, i tried to re-install the matrox driver but it made no differance,totally gutted,again cheers for your time, ian j.

 

[Tony Ostinato]

is your power supply powerful enough?

 

[secretworld]

search the old forum, i vaguely remember something like this! And do mail UA they are exremely helpfull!

 

[ian j]

Cheers guys, the psu is ok it's a dual xeon rated and there is no overclocking (550 watt). i'll have a look on the old forum and e-mail UA, i wasn't to sure if they would offer support for a second hand card,cheers ian j.

 

[him]

Try other display cards like GforceFX5200 or ATI 9200 or even S3. If it works, it means that your P650 needs more power.

 

[ian j]

Just dropped support a e-mail see what they think,i put a wireless card in so i could cut n paste some system info,Looks like i'm off out to borrow a friends graphics card,cheers ian j.

PCI bus 1, device 0, function 0
This device cannot find enough free resources that it can use. (Code 12)

If you want to use this device, you will need to disable one of the other devices on this system.

Click Troubleshoot to start the troubleshooter for this device.

OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name TRANCE
System Manufacturer ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.
System Model NCCH-DL
System Type X86-based PC
Processor x86 Family 15 Model 4 Stepping 1 GenuineIntel ~2800 Mhz
Processor x86 Family 15 Model 4 Stepping 1 GenuineIntel ~2800 Mhz
BIOS Version/Date Phoenix Technologies, LTD ASUS NCCH-DL ACPI BIOS Revision 1004, 09/03/2005
SMBIOS Version 2.3
Windows Directory C:\\WINDOWS
System Directory C:\\WINDOWS\\system32
Boot Device \\Device\\HarddiskVolume1
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = \"5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)\"
User Name TRANCE\\HARDWARE-ADDICT
Time Zone GMT Standard Time
Total Physical Memory 1,536.00 MB
Available Physical Memory 1.23 GB
Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB
Page File Space 3.35 GB
Page File C:\\pagefile.sys



Conflics/sharing

Memory Address 0xF5100000-0xF70FFFFF Intel(R) 82875P Processor to AGP Controller - 2579
Memory Address 0xF5100000-0xF70FFFFF Matrox Millennium P650

I/O Port 0x00000000-0x00000CF7 PCI bus
I/O Port 0x00000000-0x00000CF7 Direct memory access controller

I/O Port 0x000003C0-0x000003DF Intel(R) 82875P Processor to AGP Controller - 2579
I/O Port 0x000003C0-0x000003DF VgaSave

IRQ 9 Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System
IRQ 9 Intel(R) 6300ESB SMBus Controller - 25A4

Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF PCI bus
Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF Intel(R) 82875P Processor to AGP Controller - 2579
Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF VgaSave

I/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003BB Intel(R) 82875P Processor to AGP Controller - 2579
I/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003BB VgaSave



IRQ'S

IRQ 0 System timer OK
IRQ 1 Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard OK
IRQ 5 Matrox Millennium P650 OK
IRQ 8 System CMOS/real time clock OK
IRQ 9 Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System OK
IRQ 9 Intel(R) 6300ESB SMBus Controller - 25A4 OK
IRQ 12 PS/2 Compatible Mouse OK
IRQ 13 Numeric data processor OK
IRQ 14 Primary IDE Channel OK
IRQ 15 Secondary IDE Channel OK
IRQ 16 Intel(R) 6300ESB USB Universal Host Controller - 25A9 OK
IRQ 18 Adaptec Embedded Serial ATA HostRAID OK
IRQ 19 Intel(R) 6300ESB USB Universal Host Controller - 25AA OK
IRQ 21 D-Link Air DWL-510 Wireless PCI Adapter #2 OK
IRQ 22 Universal Audio UAD-1 DSP card OK
IRQ 23 Intel(R) 6300ESB USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 25AD OK

PROBLEM DEVICES

Matrox Millennium P650 PCI\\VEN_102B&DEV_2537&SUBSYS_1830102B&REV_02\\4&B7EB302&0&0008 This device cannot find enough free resources that it can use.


CONFLICTING DEVICE LIST

Input/Output Range 03B0 - 03BB used by:
Intel(R) 82875P Processor to AGP Controller - 2579
Input/Output Range 03C0 - 03DF used by:
Intel(R) 82875P Processor to AGP Controller - 2579
Memory Range 000A0000 - 000BFFFF used by:
Intel(R) 82875P Processor to AGP Controller - 2579

 

[ian j]

Hi guys, well in a attempt to see if it was psu i disconected everything that wasn't needed and as i thought that didn't work so i have borrowed a nvidia gforce 4 TI 4200 after moving things around a little everything works fine now,very strange as i now have the psu powering 4 hd's,uad card,wireless card,soundcard and daughter board+19\" breakout box,2 cdroms,midex 8,cubase dongle,usb hd,edirol pcr-50 keyboard,4 internal fans,i think i'll wait for a word from support before i e-bay the matrox card(only 5 days old) cheers for your time and the suggestion of the graphics card,ian j.

 

[PaintedBlue]

I am running the P650 and two UAD cards here with no problems, so I wonder what's going on with yours.

 

[RichR]

Ian,
I had the same problem with the P750 and my NCCH-DL. I talked to ASUS and Matrox and did not find any solutions. Since I had the Matrox Parhelia 128MB in another computer, I tried it and it worked. So I'm using the Parhelia with three monitors and returned my P750.

If you can live with 2 monitors, switch the P650 for an Nvidia, it should also work.

I just found this subject on the Nuendo Forum. It seems to be a problem with Bios 1004:
http://forum.nuendo.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=2637

 

[grimleyj]

P650 (dual@1920x1200), 2 UAD, 1 PoCo PCI, RME HDSP 9652, Asus P4PE, 2xSATA 250, 2xATA133 ... no probs.

 

[crypticglobe]

Hey there. What PCI slot is your UAD-1 in?

I have found that they don't seem to work properly in the 64bit slots on this board, but work fine in the 32bit slots. Can you move it to a 32 bit slot?

 

[TweakFreq]

under advanced it says error code 12 not enough resorces to use this device.

I ran into this same error code 12 when trying to install the host interface card for my Magma chassis. I discovered that the onboard NIC card had to be enabled. I noticed through analyzing my system with Sandra software that enabling the onboard NIC added another PCI bus for some reason and doing so resolved the error code 12 issue. I hope that you have better luck than I did with your NCCH-DL and UAD-1s. In my experience, the UAD-1's only work in 32 bit slots and the NCCH-DL only has two of them. I had all kinds of UAD-1 issues until I added a Magma PCI expansion chassis and installed all 4 of my UAD-1's in the Magma. I still have extreme latency issues unless I run my MOTU ASIO buffers at 512 and my Sonar 4 Producer I/O buffers at 128. Installing the Sonar 4.0.4 patch and the UAD-1 4.0 patch also improved the CPU load. Additionally I learned that Microsoft has a dual processor patch for WinXP if you are running SP2. Look up article 896256 on the Microsoft website. Hope this information helps...

 

[Doublehelix]

Ian J:

How did you generate that report that gave you the \"error code 12\"?

Looks like I might need to run a similar test on my system.

Thanks!

 

[TweakFreq]

Ian J:How did you generate that report that gave you the "error code 12"?

It's been a while now but to the best of my memory, the property page of the device which in my case was the Magma PCI card reported error code 12. Look in your device manager. I also use Sandra software by SiSoftware http://www.sisoftware.net/. It's a great program for analyzing and benchmarking your system. Make sure that your onboard network adapter is enabled on the NCCH-DL. I know it doesn't make sense on a dedicated audio machine with no internet connection but for some reason doing so adds a PCI bus and the needed resources to your system. Hopefully you will find as I did in my case that you do not have to remove any of your hardware to free up resources. You can verify all of this behavior with the Sandra software. They have a shareware version for download. Good luck...

 

[mightymike]

I've a NCCH-DL and 2x3.g ghz with P650 and a magma with 4 uad's as well. First do not use Bios 1004... I think 1..5 is out and works with the P650....

Second I got a code 12 but I then tried the host card on a 64 bit slot and it now works flawlessly. It has happened to other on the nuendo forum as well. My magma was also from ebay and is older 32bit version, yet it refused to work a 32bit slot... go figure.

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