UAD-1 ver 4.1 to discontinue support for DX

[Ray Sigmond]

Some time later this month, UA will discontinue support for the DX plug-in platform concurrent with the release of UAD-1 V. 4.1. Most DX applications, like Cakewalk Sonar and Sony Vegas, are already compatible with VST plug-ins, and as a result the industry as a whole is moving away from DX as a plug-in standard. Those of you who use UAD-1 powered plug-ins in Cakewalk or Sony applications have already seen the dual list of VST and DX plug-ins.

“VST plug-in support is simply more compatible, widespread and comprehensive, so UA is focusing its efforts on better VST implementation and testing, instead of splitting its resources in order to prop up DX.”


http://www.uaudio.com/webzine/2005/december/index5.html

 

[jcat]

Nothing gets past you does it?!

:-$

http://www.chrismilne.com/uadforums/vie ... 71b4798b5f





Cheers,

jcat

 

[coolout]

so if i install 4.1 i lose all my DX versions?

that officially SUCKS!!!

I have a bunch of tunes I did in acid before it supported VST (only DX).

So when I bring up those tracks the plugs will be missing.

 

[tkingen]

Go to the link in Ray's post and there is an article on saving your dx instances as presets and then reinserting them as vst and recalling your presets. Not convenient, but it may be the best solution under the circumstances.

 

[coolout]

Go to the link in Ray's post and there is an article on saving your dx instances as presets and then reinserting them as vst and recalling your presets. Not convenient, but it may be the best solution under the circumstances.

that's not really much of a workaround.

acid 4 didn't support VST only DX (previous versions of acid can be installed on a computer at the same time).

So basically i'd have to open every project I did in acid 4 (at least a year's worth of ideas) into acid 5, save all my UAD plug settings for each song as presets, replace the DX plugs with VST, and THEN save it as a NEW Acid 5 song.

That'll take at least a couple of weeks work...

THANKS UA!!!

 

[ZerodB]

Am in the same boat as Coolout, as an ACID and Vegas user. This is incredibly lame! If I install 4.1, I too won't be able to load all commercial projects for the last couple of years to date - as they pretty much as use UAD DX plugs.

Why drop DX support? It wasn't even added that long ago! Surely it isn't too much effort to maintain the Direct X versions?

I'm very disappointed with UA.

One less future customer of their new plugs here...

ZdB

 

[MsM]

Is there any differences between using UAD's stuff via VST or DX?

Never tried the dx versions...

 

[billybk1]

Is there any differences between using UAD's stuff via VST or DX?

Never tried the dx versions...

The DX versions were really the VST dressed up to look and act like the native VST plugins using the ol' FXpansion VST-DX adapter technology.
I have not used any UAD-1 DX plugins, in over a year. Ever since SONAR 4 (2003) and ACID Pro 5 (2004), I've been using the VST versions exclusively.
I will not miss the DX, as the VST perform more reliably and don't have missing features, like tempo-sync.

 

[dain]

Does anyone know if the UAD-1 vst versions solve the rendering problem in vegas 6? I understand UA dumping DX, but I wish there was a way to keep the DX versions of the plugs we have now, while still being able to update the VST versions. I won't be able to go back and listen to anything done in vegas 4. There is no way to run version 4 and 4.1 at the same time, right. There probably aren't enough of us who need the old DX versions to justify UA to come up with a viable and realistic solution, for those of us that use vegas who can't transfer our mixes done in vegas 1,2,3,4, or 5 to 6. How hard would it be to make a patch so the dx versions that I have now continue to work while I get updates for the vst stuff in 4.1 and beyond? I have no idea. Does anyone know if there would be an easy way to do this?---sorry for jumping around I'm kinda upset about this.

 

[Spacey]

Just uninstall 4.1 and re-install 4.0 to work on older projects.

 

[Vocalpoint]

so if i install 4.1 i lose all my DX versions?

So stick with 4.0.

What's the problem...is 4.0 gonna suddenly stop working for you?

 

[dain]

I thought about reinstalling, but I have had some issues in the past. It is probably what I will do. I think I'm switching DAWs, which I should have done a year ago. It sucks because I was going to get a new card, but now I'm not sure. Neuendo or Sonar makes the most sense I guess.

 

[dayv]

about time rock on UA.....

 

[Paul Woodlock]

so if i install 4.1 i lose all my DX versions?

So stick with 4.0.

What's the problem...is 4.0 gonna suddenly stop working for you?

Of course there's the 'small issue' of not being able to have access to future UAD-1 plugs if you stick with V4.0.

Which means reverting back and forth from 4.0 to whatever the latest version is.

Or you can add another boot partition and have V4.0 setup on that.

 

[Vocalpoint]

Of course there's the 'small issue' of not being able to have access to future UAD-1 plugs if you stick with V4.0.

I guess that's the price of staying current. You want the latest and greatest - get a VST host that works and join the party. You wanna worry about old tracks on old software using old plugin specs....stay with 4.0

Hell - I use Vegas too...but I am not gonna stop using it because my UAD-1 won't work with it. For what it's worth - Vegas never worked right as it was with the UAD-1 with any recent DX (Or VST) version of the plugs.

 

[mm-pro]

I find it harsh that so many here embrace the abandonment of support for many users so lightly. There may come a time when UA makes a change that affects your ability to stay current with your investment and easily serve your clients. I hope you don't have people cheering about your plight.

There is NO reasonable way to deal with this for people with a backlog of EDLs with DX plugins. In my business I often have to go back to EDLs 2 or 3 years old.

More seriously, I think it reflects badly on UA that a major change for many users is but a footnote in an online magazine. For me, it directly affects my ability to do my job.

Maybe we will all cheer when Mac or PC support is ended?

Regards,

MM

 

[dain]

Vegas never worked right as it was with the UAD-1 with any recent DX (Or VST) version of the plugs.

I never had any problems in vegas 4. works great.--- I think partitioning my drive sounds like the best option, that is the best idea I have heard yet. Thanks to those who are sympathetic.

dayv wrote--about time rock on UA.....

Did some DX user steal your girl friend, or did she just leave you for a DX plug? Are you on some VST cheerleading squad, and the only thing standing in the way of your squad winning state is that good for nothing DX squad, who are always copying your cheerleading routines? I'm just kidding dayv, don't stop telling people to rock on and don't you stop rocking on :wink:

 

[Vocalpoint]

I never had any problems in vegas 4. works great.

Vegas 4 worked great for me too...I have just moved on. V6 still never worked fine with the UAD-1 and since Sony took over - I am not holding out any hopes.

While I was a staunch Vegas supporter a few years back - I finally abandoned Vegas as an audio platform years ago and moved to Nuendo. Nuendo is so far ahead of Vegas, it's not even worth discussing. Plus UAD-1 (VST version) is a dream to use in Nuendo. I will not miss the DX versions at all.

I still like Vegas for my video work tho.

 

[secretworld]

I would, if I needed, do a ghost (using floppy ghost 2003) of the os disk/partition. I woud go on and install 4.1 4.2 etc etc. Then if I needed dx versions I would do another ghost of the system and reinstall the old ghost. It takes about 15min to do a backup and about 10 to restore. This is only an option if you only need it let´s say once a month. Otherwise I would create a dualboot with bootmagic and copy the os partition to a new logical partition. One would be my dx partition and the other would just grow....I kept a win98 partition for a long time...

Good luck!!!!!

 

[rimbaud234]

I would, if I needed, do a ghost (using floppy ghost 2003) of the os disk/partition. I woud go on and install 4.1 4.2 etc etc. Then if I needed dx versions I would do another ghost of the system and reinstall the old ghost. It takes about 15min to do a backup and about 10 to restore. This is only an option if you only need it let´s say once a month. Otherwise I would create a dualboot with bootmagic and copy the os partition to a new logical partition. One would be my dx partition and the other would just grow....I kept a win98 partition for a long time...

Good luck!!!!!

It's just THAT SIMPLE! :lol: