Oh just one more thing I noticed not related to the DPS issue is that the UADx options on Century Tube Channel Strip, i.e. mic, low cut, phase, pad when selected do not select on the Apollo. So assume either selecting these are redundant on the UADx or that they are valid but do not effect the selection on the Apollo. If redundant then I suppose I need to ensure that these options are selected on Apollo. If not redundant do I need to do anything on the Apollo? Not very clear about this. If use UAD2 then there is link between plugin and Apollo so not an issue. Also can't save settings in UADx plugin?