UAD Latency In Nuendo 3.2

[mdslammer]

I'm expierencing latency when trying to use the Precision Multiband in my group busses.

Anyone know of a work around to compensate for the latency?

Thanks.

Mark Dalzell / AudioScapes
Las Vegas, NV

 

[Paul Woodlock]

Use a negative track delay on all tracks routed to that group.

 

[mdslammer]

Hi Paul,

Thanks for the reply. I'm not quite sure what you mean. Can you be a bit more specific? (How to go about this...)

Regards.

Mark

 

[neil wilkes]

There should not be any delay.
Nuendo 3.2 has full PDC throughout the entire signal path.

However, it may be possible that you have this turned off?

 

[mdslammer]

Hi Neil,

Where do I go to check to see if the PDC is turned on or off?

Thanks.

Mark Dalzell

 

[neil wilkes]

On the main project page, there is a big button to \"constrain Delay Compensation\". This can be turned off when tracking and you don't have an external board to route everything through.

There is also a preference for setting this up.

It's sort of possible that the PDC is not fully compensating because of the additional latency introduced by the plug. See p 139 of the UAD manual for this info.
However, if it is genuinely introducing latency, and PDC is turned on, then it has to be a bug in PMB.
I honestly think if this were the case, you would be deaf from all the screaming & tantrums being thrown.

 

[mdslammer]

Hey Niel,

As usual, you come through again. I'll check this out.

Thanks for taking time to reply and help.

Regards.

Mark Dalzell / AudioScapes
Las Vegas, NV

 

[hulahup]

Hey guys,

I am currently experiencing the same problem. This thing is MBP will add latency to the full project, not only to the plugged specific busses/tracks. It will also add latency if muted. Only remove it will let teh project run without any latency. No other plug will give me this problem. This let me think there is a problem with MBP/NUendo 3.2 . I will try all Neil sugestions.
Mark, please post here if you fix the problem! I will do the same.

Manu

 

[neil wilkes]

Hmm.

There has to be another solution here.
I just tried to repro this and cannot hear any latency at all.
Repro steps.
I took a single stereo track, and created 2 subgroups.
Track FX Send 1 & 2 were routed prefade, one to each group.
Then I put the PMB in group 1, leaving group 2 clear.
Both groups play on perfect sync.

Can you please tell me if I am not understanding you, but I honestly cannot find any latency here at all that is uncompensated.
All is in perfect sync.

 

[hulahup]

Hi,

There has been a misunderstanding. By latency, i did not mean any sync problem between tracks... MBP will add a delay between the moment you click on START and the moment nuendo will actually start. We're talking almost one sec delay. I already have tried different buffers setups, and everything else is working fine in nuendo.

 

[RWIL]

Hi,

There has been a misunderstanding. By latency, i did not mean any sync problem between tracks... MBP will add a delay between the moment you click on START and the moment nuendo will actually start. We're talking almost one sec delay. I already have tried different buffers setups, and everything else is working fine in nuendo.

You can try to reduce the preload from the Device setup dialog (VST expert settings).

 

[hulahup]

You can try to reduce the preload from the Device setup dialog (VST expert settings).

thanks, but i already tried this. Preload is at minimum, aand low latency is checked.
Really wierd.

 

[neil wilkes]

What are your system specs, including PCI loads?
Sounds as if you have a bottleneck in the system somewhere.

 

[GEORGE]

Problem with Precision Limiter

I don't know why my Precision Limiter can't make output peak limit?
In rest all function it's ok .
My limit output(when it's Precision Limiter on that bus) it's over my value(ex.....I put -0.10 and when I make \"statistic\" with Sound Forge the value it's 0.00 db).
Conclusionrecision Limiter can't do limit peak.He make only gain reduction, input volume and release

WHY?
PLS HELP ME

 

[fj]

I had a problem similar to yours. I found that one of my group channels was causing Nuendo to have timing problems with the plug-ins. When I eliminated the offending channel (I figured out whihc one it was by removing the group channels one by one) everything started to work perfectly again.

 

[.mr chris]

what-about-reading-the-manual? :idea:

PLIM q: be sure to set your meters to \"post fader\"...

HTH,
.c

 

[neil wilkes]

Re: Problem with Precision Limiter

I don't know why my Precision Limiter can't make output peak limit?
In rest all function it's ok .
My limit output(when it's Precision Limiter on that bus) it's over my value(ex.....I put -0.10 and when I make "statistic" with Sound Forge the value it's 0.00 db).
Conclusionrecision Limiter can't do limit peak.He make only gain reduction, input volume and release

WHY?
PLS HELP ME

Are you placing PL pre or Post master fader?
What application are you using?
If it's Pre fader, then the fader will set your final output, not PL.

 

[jcat]

You can try to reduce the preload from the Device setup dialog (VST expert settings).

thanks, but i already tried this. Preload is at minimum, aand low latency is checked.
Really wierd.

Isn't this the way it's supposed to be? You're computer can't see into the future and predict when you're going to press play, so when you press play you'll be subject to the delay introduced by the plugins, as you normally would. It's just one serious delay with the PMB!

I get a similar thing with older versions of SIR, that has a mammoth delay.

Hope that helps...





Cheers,

jcat

 

[PaulB]

There should not be any delay.
Nuendo 3.2 has full PDC throughout the entire signal path.

Yes , Neil ,this is true.
However,lately I noticed some weird behaviour in N3.
Some tracks compensate for delay and some don't.
So maybe it could be Nuendo related???
*see my post: http://forum.nuendo.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=9512

Greets
Paul