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UAD Neve 1073

josva

Member
maybe stupid question..
Have UA modelled not only 3-band EQ of 1073 but also Pre-amplifier section?
I've heard that URS N is only an EQ part of 1081..
What do you think 'bout?
 

xist2005

Active Member
Cool, I agree about the price \"request\".
I see the istances count has not been updated with the 1073 figures yet. I'm scared, let's hope the SE will be decent ;)
 

billybk1

Shareholder
josva said:
maybe stupid question..
Have UA modelled not only 3-band EQ of 1073 but also Pre-amplifier section?
Good question, I am not exactly sure from the description UA gives:

........discrete Class A transistor mic/line amp design with 3-band EQ and high-pass filter epitomizes the Neve essence.


Looks like we may see the Neve 1073 sooner, rather than later though.
 

marcuswuest

New Member
xist2005 said:
Cool, I agree about the price "request".
I see the istances count has not been updated with the 1073 figures yet. I'm scared, let's hope the SE will be decent ;)
a stereo 1073 will hit one UAD1 card with about 25% DSP load @ 48k
a stereo 1073SE will consume about 8% of one card.

Cheers, Marcus
 

xist2005

Active Member
thanks.
ouch
aargh

uhm
they are already developing for the newer card, as I told somewhere else, it's clear from the plug counts of the latest releases, really hungry!
 

A Gruesome Discovery

Active Member
Oh no, they went and put the low-shelf on the right and the high-shelf on the left! It's like M.C. Escher painting! I'm so disoriented!
 

danilop

Member
a stereo 1073 will hit one UAD1 card with about 25% DSP load @ 48k
a stereo 1073SE will consume about 8% of one card.
#-o

OUCH!!!

We need four times more DSP power asap !!!!!

What about extending \"old\" UAD-1 card limit to 12 (Magma 13 slot is ideal for this) and make four times faster PCIe UAD-2 and limit that to four instances(16X UAD-1)? Win-win situation :wink:
 

mBlaze

Member
Neve??

16 CH. or so of hopefully great sounding Neve 1073SE's on a UAD-1 PP for $399 plus whatever the plug price is still a steal versus the rest or this Duende/Focusrite/ stuff?

Basically 2 UAD-1 PP's and 32 CH of Neve 1073SE for around $1000(?) seems more than OK.
 

guitarz

Active Member
Prediction: Given the popularity of the Neve strip and it's various clones, the UAD 1073 will be the most scrutinized plug-in history.

The question everyone will be asking is, did UA capture the famous \"magic\" of the preamp section, or is this exclusively and EQ model?
 

Matt Hepworth

Master of the UADiverse
Forum Admin
Moderator
guitarz said:
The question everyone will be asking is, did UA capture the famous "magic" of the preamp section, or is this exclusively and EQ model?
Looks like it, from the info provided. Also, it specifically has an 'EQ' Bypass, sounds to me like it's just bypassing the EQ section.
 

Fenris

Member
I wish UA's 1073 had a low-pass in addition to the high-pass ... the URS N is THE thing for lead guitars because you can play off the high shelf against the low-pass and get a bright sound without fuzz.

I understand the limitations of modeling, though ... probably UA can't make a 1081 model sound as good as a 1073 model for the same reason Mr. Neve couldn't. :)
 

Mark Edmonds

Active Member
Matt Hepworth said:
guitarz said:
The question everyone will be asking is, did UA capture the famous "magic" of the preamp section, or is this exclusively and EQ model?
Looks like it, from the info provided. Also, it specifically has an 'EQ' Bypass, sounds to me like it's just bypassing the EQ section.
Actually, I would be cautious about that. All the UAD plugins have global on/off switches so you can bypass them without introducing glitches due to the latency.

Think of the Pultec or CE-1. They have bypass as well as power switches where the effect bypass is not a straight pass-through. I don't see a power switch on the Neve graphic unless it is the "OFF" position in the gain control. If that is the case, my concern there is that automation and A/B'ing might be fiddly, especially if that is a continuous rather than stepped control.

Mark
 

guitarz

Active Member
Think of the Pultec or CE-1. They have bypass as well as power switches where the effect bypass is not a straight pass-through. I don't see a power switch on the Neve graphic unless it is the \"OFF\" position in the gain control.
But these switches are on the hardware units as well. The bypass could be a standard VST (for ex) button on the edge of the plug-in window bar. (In fact, the only interface deviation from the UA plugs and their actual hardware counterparts is the addition of the \"compress/limit\" switch on the LA-2A.) The original Neve 1073 strip has no power button either.
 

Mark Edmonds

Active Member
Oh, OK. In that case I refer you to every single UAD plugin available, right down to the individual Nigel or CS1 components. They all have internal on/off switches that act as true bypasses. Using a host bypass is not guaranteed to provide glitch free switching.

Mark
 

neil wilkes

Venerated Member
Fenris said:
I wish UA's 1073 had a low-pass in addition to the high-pass ... the URS N is THE thing for lead guitars because you can play off the high shelf against the low-pass and get a bright sound without fuzz.
Hear Hear!
I often use the URS N purely for the HPF, it just works & works well.
 

danilop

Member
A Gruesome Discovery said:
Oh no, they went and put the low-shelf on the right and the high-shelf on the left! It's like M.C. Escher painting! I'm so disoriented!
Although historically correct, it would be nice to have an alternative GUI for 1073 (beside authentic one!) with swapped Hi and Lo Shelving potentiometers!
 
G

Guest

Guest
So what do the people that have the URS neve think? will UA's version be more acurate?

I heard the URS neve was not a CPU hog is that true?
 

danilop

Member
:idea:
Just a thought ...

What if AMS-Neve have an agreement with UA like SSL and Waves?

If so, one of possible scenarios could be:

UA release their 1073 and after couple of months (with market probe already done by UA) AMS-Neve release DSP powered plug-in version of flagship digital console - Neve 88D!?

SSL have just done that with Duende ....

8-[
 

guitarz

Active Member
Mark Edmonds said:
Oh, OK. In that case I refer you to every single UAD plugin available, right down to the individual Nigel or CS1 components. They all have internal on/off switches that act as true bypasses. Using a host bypass is not guaranteed to provide glitch free switching.

Mark
Yeah, I was just hoping we'd get a little bit o' that Neve preamp mojo. I can't justify shelling out for a real one, that's for sure. (Maybe someday a great river pre, though. I hear those are similarly great)
 
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